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Do Buddhist believe in god?

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Re: Do Buddhist believe in god?

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Re: Do Buddhist believe in god?

Postby Way~Farer » Fri Jul 06, 2012 6:22 am

The Buddha was never concerned with the literal 'origin of the cosmos'. Questions about whether or when the universe began were always put to one side. But in the Biblical religions, the creation story was tied into the rest of the tradition. I think that is why it has become such a divisive issue in Western culture (or between religious literalists and scientific materialists.)

But Buddhism was always concerned with 'the cause of dukkha and the ending of dukkha'. This is something that happens within the human being. That is one of the reasons (in my opinion) that Buddhism is not particularly concerned by whatever accounts of the actual physical origins of things that scientists come up with. They don't have a dog in the fight, so to speak.

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Re: Do Buddhist believe in god?

Postby Way~Farer » Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:08 am

OK! I'll concede the point. :smile:

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Re: Do Buddhist believe in god?

Postby kirk5a » Fri Jul 06, 2012 1:36 pm

"When one thing is practiced & pursued, ignorance is abandoned, clear knowing arises, the conceit 'I am' is abandoned, latent tendencies are uprooted, fetters are abandoned. Which one thing? Mindfulness immersed in the body." -AN 1.230

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Re: Do Buddhist believe in god?

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He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Do Buddhist believe in god?

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He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Do Buddhist believe in god?

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Re: Do Buddhist believe in god?

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He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Do Buddhist believe in god?

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Re: Do Buddhist believe in god?

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He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Do Buddhist believe in god?

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Re: Do Buddhist believe in god?

Postby tiltbillings » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:29 pm

http://www.bps.lk/olib/wh/wh162.pdf See the essay: "The Buddhist Attitude to God"

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Re: Do Buddhist believe in god?

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He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Do Buddhist believe in god?

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Re: Do Buddhist believe in god?

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Re: Do Buddhist believe in god?

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Re: Do Buddhist believe in god?

Postby Judai » Sat Jul 07, 2012 12:23 am

Hey tiltbilling
You asked where is the Buddha,and did he crwate the cosmos.

My reply:if you are implying nhilism,and anhilation of the existing being then,all i can say is the Buddha taught thoae things were wrong view,the Buddha never taught that life ceases not once not ever.The Buddha stated that after death their is always the continuation of an existing being,whether its eternal life in rebirth,or eternal life as the Buddha life itself is eternal.their is no nhilism,or anhilationism doctrine in Buddhism its simply listed as wrong view.

With that said the Buddha is eternal,everlating,unborn,and uncreatedand as he stated the teacher of immortality so where do you think he is?

As far as the cosmos is voncerned the cosmos is samsarasan its not of the Buddha its of mara,and have u ever heard of emanationIsm?more in line with karma than creatiSm.

Lastly the TOS is do Buddhists belive in god the answer is YES
You mono and poly ideas of god or gods either way they are still gods whether its the god odin or the god of the bible or the gods in buddhism.
And an atheist doesnt belive that a god exists PERIOD,whether is mono or poly idea of god or gods,
An agnostic is one one states a god Might exist.

So no we are not atheists,also gods in are literal not metophoric if you want ill let the suttas tell you that for me?


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