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Re: Masturbation:A sensitive topic( need more discussions)!

Postby Mr Man » Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:40 am

If you practice "letting go" masturbation will cease.

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Re: Masturbation:A sensitive topic( need more discussions)!

Postby Vlcimba » Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:58 am

Form is emptiness. Emptiness is form--- Heart sutra

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Re: Masturbation:A sensitive topic( need more discussions)!

Postby manas » Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:52 am

Then the Blessed One, picking up a tiny bit of dust with the tip of his fingernail, said to the monk, "There isn't even this much form...feeling...
perception...fabrications...consciousness that is constant, lasting, eternal, not subject to change, that will stay just as it is as long as eternity."

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Re: Masturbation:A sensitive topic( need more discussions)!

Postby Vlcimba » Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:21 am

Form is emptiness. Emptiness is form--- Heart sutra

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The science and karma of masturbation

Postby Vlcimba » Thu Jul 19, 2012 5:00 am

Like the topic states, after doing some research , i found out that people who masturbate are most likely to have 34 percent less chances of getting prostate cancer. Well , heres the irony, an average men has only a 16 percent chance of getting prostate cancer in his life, and thats fairly low. Furthurmore, 98 percent of men who get prostate cancer doesnt die, and quite a number of them recover without treatment at all. Masturbation reduces high sex drive, reducess stress, puts your into sleep easily, and so on.

But heres the question, budhhism states that lust causes suffering, which i believe in too. A normal person, after masturbating, always feels empty and guilt, and this causes other physcological problems, and they are eager to quit after that. This is definately scientifically proven, as our brain finds out that masturbating isnt real sex after ejaculation. There are many ways to reduce prostate cancer, like aerobic excercices, reducing it through diet and so on. And through buddhism we can actually reduce our high sex drive, reduces our stress, and of course food aids and meditation helps sleeping too, So Is masturbating needed in our lives? for me my answer is no , how bout yours? :anjali:

Sources:
http://www.askmen.com/sports/health_400 ... ancer.html
http://www.google.com
Please note that the facts and figures above are all from trustable sources and are sciencetifically proven. The numbers may not be completely accurate but are all near. Statistics may not be a trustable source but it does prove something.
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Re: Porn Free for 90 Days

Postby Vlcimba » Thu Jul 19, 2012 5:01 am

viewtopic.php?f=16&t=13214

Did some research on masturbation and this is what i got
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Re: The science and karma of masturbation

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Re: Porn Free for 90 Days

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Re: The science and karma of masturbation

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Re: Porn Free for 90 Days

Postby Vlcimba » Thu Jul 19, 2012 5:57 am

Would need more help getting the facts in guys.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patikulamanasikara
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Re: Porn Free for 90 Days

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Re: Porn Free for 90 Days

Postby Sokehi » Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:21 am

It is good to speak openly about an "issue" that is burdensome to all serious practicioners... especially if they spend a longer time for example on retreats or even more if they ordain and live a celibate life.

It is often discussed how hard it is to overcome the craving for food on such occassions and through my time in thailand there was happily quite an open atmosphere to talk to an elderly monk about the other BIG sensual dukkha, sexual lust, that one experiences in a celibate community.

I appreciate your posting OP and hope a lot will find guidance by it.
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What does womanhood matter at all, when the mind is concentrated well, when knowledge flows on steadily as one sees correctly into Dhamma. One to whom it might occur, ‘I am a woman’ or ‘I am a man’ or ‘I’m anything at all’ is fit for Mara to address. – SN 5.2

If they take what's yours, tell yourself that you're making it a gift.
Otherwise there will be no end to the animosity. - Ajahn Fuang Jotiko


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Re: Porn Free for 90 Days

Postby manas » Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:50 pm

I have gotten rid of my previous post here. I will just say that overcoming sexual lust is a long-term challenge for most, but one we must eventually face up to if we desire to gain liberation from Samsara.

with metta.
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perception...fabrications...consciousness that is constant, lasting, eternal, not subject to change, that will stay just as it is as long as eternity."

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Re: Porn Free for 90 Days

Postby Sokehi » Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:30 pm

I once heard this saying, forgot where.

The definition of puritanism: the fear that someone somewhere could have fun ;)

Sexuality is an essential part of our existence. To overcome lust if you're celibate or to transform it into something more wholesome if you live in a relationship so you don't cheat on your partner... well it's not that easy for some if not most. So it's great to read in this forum about this topic even if it's just that profane porn level. Actually I found the neuroscience aspect in those videos very interesting.
Get the wanting out of waiting

What does womanhood matter at all, when the mind is concentrated well, when knowledge flows on steadily as one sees correctly into Dhamma. One to whom it might occur, ‘I am a woman’ or ‘I am a man’ or ‘I’m anything at all’ is fit for Mara to address. – SN 5.2

If they take what's yours, tell yourself that you're making it a gift.
Otherwise there will be no end to the animosity. - Ajahn Fuang Jotiko


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Re: Porn Free for 90 Days

Postby twelph » Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:58 am

I am joining this endeavor, so I might as well put it into writing here. Porn annihilates my mindfulness, so it's been obvious that I need to give it up. I'm also giving up caffeine while I'm at it, as it seems to cause heedlessness in me. :anjali:

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Re: Porn Free for 90 Days

Postby dhamma_newb » Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:45 am

The watched mind brings happiness.
Dhp 36

I am larger and better than I thought. I did not know I held so much goodness.
Walt Whitman

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Re: Porn Free for 90 Days

Postby twelph » Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:56 am

Thanks for the link dhamma_newb, interesting article!

Edit: Mana's post responding to me disappeared for some reason.

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Re: Porn Free for 90 Days

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Form is emptiness. Emptiness is form--- Heart sutra

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Re: Porn Free for 90 Days

Postby twelph » Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:13 am

It's interesting to see how my dream last night was much more intense and vivid in a sexual nature. The dream stayed with me the entire day, and my awareness strengthened considerably each time that I noticed my mind thinking about it. An aspect that was quite difficult to cope with was the fact that every time my awareness strengthened in relation to the dream, the mental images in my head also became much more pronounced. The next time it happens I am going to attempt broadening my awareness to include a neutral object at the same time, as I feel like too much of my concentration is focused upon recollection. As I write this, getting these thoughts organized seems to help considerably, though I still have to be truthful in admitting that it's rather difficult.

I'm at about ten days now, as I had started a few days before I posted to this thread. Something else bothering me, is that in making this goal I feel like I have become aware of the strong aversion I have to my desire for porn. It's hard shifting my thoughts from the aversion to my porn habits, to being able to see the benefits and joy of renunciation. Going to keep at it.

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