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Exploring Theravāda's connections to other paths. What can we learn from other traditions, religions and philosophies?
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questionasker
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Too much information.

Postby questionasker » Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:21 am

Hello fellow Buddhist,

Buddhism has a lot of scriptures and different rules and opinions, lots of teacher with different points of view. Sooo much to the Buddhist ways.
Why so much?? If there is a truth, wouldn't it be something simple. I heard enlightenment is like a joke, once you realize its funny or something like that.

Anyway, i believe that the truth to eliminating suffering or complete happiness and enlightenment should be something simple, it makes more sense that way. It doesn't seem right to have to learn all these rules and techniques to become enlightened or reach our full potential.

What are your opinions on the simple way??
I would really appreciate any reply please!!

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Re: Too much information.

Postby bodom » Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:31 am

To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html
http://www.ajahnchah.org/

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Re: Too much information.

Postby Kare » Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:57 am

:goodpost:

Ajahn Chah had deep wisdom.

But sometimes a certain amount of study is useful just to get rid of of the unnecessary complexities and realize how central to the Buddhas teaching this is.
Mettāya,
Kåre

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Re: Too much information.

Postby santa100 » Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:18 am

BuddhaDhamma is like medicine. There're different medicines because we uninstructed worldlings have so many illnesses..

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Re: Too much information.

Postby manas » Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:49 am

Hi questionasker

sorry, had to edit ... upon reflection, I decided that my previous answer here was better left unsaid. I will just say that I empathize with your question.

with metta.
Last edited by manas on Sun Jul 22, 2012 4:36 am, edited 1 time in total.
Then the Blessed One, picking up a tiny bit of dust with the tip of his fingernail, said to the monk, "There isn't even this much form...feeling...
perception...fabrications...consciousness that is constant, lasting, eternal, not subject to change, that will stay just as it is as long as eternity."

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Re: Too much information.

Postby James the Giant » Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:09 am

Then,
saturated with joy,
you will put an end to suffering and stress.

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Re: Too much information.

Postby Dan74 » Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:51 am

Other people's delusions tend to seem unnecessary and grotesque. But our own are very real and necessary. And it usually takes quite a bit of work to let them go or for them to let go of us.
_/|\_

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Re: Too much information.

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Re: Too much information.

Postby reflection » Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:55 am

The truth may be simple, but as said, it's not easy to see. It's hard to get enlightened. That alone explains why there are so many opinions. If it was easy, everyone would agree and would just be having a cup of tea.

But the practice is simple, yet not so easy also. It's looking deep. What's the mind attached to? Let it go and become more peaceful, step by step. The mind goes deeper and there is finer stuff to let go of. Until the mind sees there is nothing. See it like this and there is no confusion anymore, the Buddha-Dhamma will be in your heart instead of in your intellect.

This is how I reflect.

With metta,
Reflection

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Re: Too much information.

Postby Aloka » Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:10 am

Hi questionasker,

Together with some sutta study, I like to have the uncluttered directness and simplicity of a teacher like Ajahn Sumedho to help me on the path.

My opinion is that since the time of the Buddha so long ago, study and practice has probably become unnecessarily complicated with the arising of "Buddhist traditions," different commentaries, and various interpretations of Dhamma. So I guess one has to try and find a way through all of that to what resonates as being a direct way to minimise dukkha and increase one's personal understanding and peace of mind.

with kind wishes

Aloka

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Re: Too much information.

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Re: Too much information.

Postby dharmagoat » Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:31 pm

Buddhism's profundity lies in its ultimate simplicity.

From the mahāyāna point of view, once buddha-nature is revealed, all doctrine has served its purpose.

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Re: Too much information.

Postby Durt_Dawg » Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:00 pm

Buddhism doesn't have to be complicated, ya just have ta stick wid one GOOD teacher, one school, and study from da basics. You definetly gonna be confused if ya start looking at da theory of emptiness, mind only, and da deep theories first.

Start off by building up ya faith on da triple gem, cause, condition and effect, rebirth etc.

Right view homes right view!
Lets b fwendssss!!!!

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Re: Too much information.

Postby Durt_Dawg » Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:01 pm

Lets b fwendssss!!!!

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Re: Too much information.

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Re: Too much information.

Postby SDC » Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:06 am

Quick story:

About 10 years ago I took at trip to British Columbia from New York. In theory the trip was very simple; go to airport, get on plane, change planes in Minneapolis, land in Vancouver, get on bus, check into hotel, go skiing. Very simple steps, right?

However when I got to the airport my flight was delayed, which caused me to miss my flight out of Minneapolis, so that stopover was extended 6 miserable hours. I forgot drops for my contacts so my eyes hurt all day. My stomach hurt. I was tired. I was bored. Once I landed in Vancouver the bus to Whistler was delayed. My back hurt. My headphones were crappy. My girlfriend was sick at home and I felt bad. The bus ride was long and uncomfortable. When all was said and done I got to Whistler 15 hours later than expected.



Intellectual understanding is only one part of the journey. Our urgency, overconfidence and excitement can cause us to overlook any possible pitfalls. It can even cause us to mistake intellectual understanding for experiential confirmation of the path; a mistake that can easily plateau one's practice and send it into obscurity. Speaking from experience.

Progress along this path can happen, but it takes work. It is NOT simple.

Just my 2 pennies. :smile:

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Re: Too much information.

Postby danieLion » Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:15 am

Please see:
viewtopic.php?f=16&t=13262
Best,
Daniel

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