Judai wrote:Hey Brother
(MAJJHIMA NIKAYA The noble search Sutta 26)
"I am one who has transended all,a knower of all,Unsullied among all things,renouncing all,By craving's ceasing freed.Having known this all for myself,to whom should I point as teacher? I have no teacher,and one like me Exists nowhere in all the world,With all its gods,Because I have No person for my counterpart.I am the Accomplished One in the world
I am the Teacher Supreme.I alone am the fully Enlightened One,Whose fires are quenched and extinguished.To set in motion the Wheel of the Dhamma In a world that has become blind.I go to beat the drum of the deathless."
Impermanance/dependent origination/suffering are all rooted in ignorance which is 1 of the 3 poisons,impermanace comes from ignorance the Buddha is permanant hence 4th nobles truth unless you think the Buddha slips back into impermanat samsara and can change and get the 3 poisons back?or has he done away with them permanently?
the above qoute covers all knowing/all seeing,all pure,and that no being is higher than a Buddha(supreme being Bhagavan)also states he is the teacher of deathless(imortality)and by the 4th noble truth Permanance,as far as creating the cosmos the cosmos is samsara which is of mara,and not the true reality correct?the true reality is Nirvana,which is the Buddha and of the Buddha.tiltbilt stated that for the Buddha to fit the mono idea of god he had to be the creator of the cosmos,well my reply was that the cosmos is of mara not the Buddha,and the Buddha is the author of the true reality =Nirvana
I didn't ask about supernatural aspects within the canon, thanks
The fourth noble truth is the path leading to the destruction of Dukkha, not the end of Dukkha itself; that would be the third Noble Truth.
When a flame goes out where does it go to? you seem to be infering perminance to something which is not a "thing", it is irrevocable but that does not show it is a perminent thing
, only that there is no sliding back therefrom. anicca would be better translated as inconsistent, not-sure, changable. and as for the deathless, it is also called the "un-born" and that which is not born can not die, so is deathless, just like nibbana is the going out (of a flame), there is no more arising.
Mara isn't a creator god, he is only one god of the sensual sphere (of which we abide and only one of the planes of existence), although you have not shown any evidence that the Buddha created Nibbana.
MY REPLY:no friend the 3rd noble truth isnt the end of suffering,it is the Lord Buddha simply telling you there is an end to suffering and its nirvana,if the 3rd noble truth was the end of suffering their would not need be a reason to tell you the 4th nobel truth for you would already be enlightended with the 3rd truth.
example: 3rd truth their is an end to suffering its nirvana,now just becasue I told you their is an end to suffering,doesnt mean you have ended suffering its just a telling you it exists
the 4th nobel truth IS the end of suffering for now I have shown you the path,and once you have fullfilled the path,there will be and END to suffering.
so as I stated before the 4th nobel truth is the end of suffering,the 3rd nobel truth is letting you know their is an end to suffering but the path to follow hasnt been mentioned yet for you to end suffering(thats in the 4th truth)
the falme going out shows ceaseing to exist,this is talking about the "I"=false self,defilement/suffering and impermenance which is based and rooted in ignorance.
many Buddhists mistake nibbana to be anhilation of an existing being or nhilism,which it is not,as the Buddha would say there is always an continuation of an existing being.whether it be us in samsara being reborn FOREVER or the Buddha living FOREVER,eitehr way anhilationism/nhilism are wrong views.
you did nothin g but agree with me the Buddha is unborn,cannot die and is deathless(immortal)
and as stated the Buddha is PERMANENT,ulsee you think the Buddha hasnt PERMENANTLY done away with the 3 poisons?has the Buddha PERMENANTLY done away with suffering?
the 5 transmigation are samsara sir and samsara IS mara.mara doesnt create samsara he IS you cannot creat what you are,this is emaniationism not creationism.
now the world and everything around you comes from EVOLUTION also known as dependent origination now follow all this evolution(DO) and what is the root of all of it?=IGNORANCE that is this cosmos origination,the universe and the 5 transmigation belongs to mara.now is he the CREATOR?well I dont think he built it with his bare hands but it does come from him,every single bit of samsara is maras.
now did the Buddha create Nirvana NO how can you create what you are?
the Lord Buddha didnt create the true realityt he IS the true reality.
again sir this is based on a COMPARISON between the mono god to the Lord Buddha.
Im simply trying to show you the Buddha is the Atuthor of the true reality(nirvana) just like the mono god is the author of their version of the true reality(heaven/earth).
what makes the abrahamic god be called god?he is the higherst being the supreme being for he has none higher than him.OKAY is the Buddha discribed as thus in the suttas? yes MANY AMNY times over the Buddha will tell you their is no higher being than a Budhda which is why the Buddha is teacher of gods huamns and all living beings the Buddha is higher than the 5 transmigations of Samsara,which is why Ananda called him Bhagavan at the Beginning of every sutta.
does the Lord Buddha fit the other chararitics of the Mono idea of god??yes he is all seeing,all knowing,all loving,The Permanent,(all powerfull is a contradiction of the all loving)
Brother the Buddha does not change he is not impermenant.