i'm specifically asking about theravada jhana sitting meditation.
I've tried everything. so forget all the standard stuff: perception of light, qigong, meditating with eyes open (i still fall asleep!), etc. etc.
i eat right, exercise, do qigong, aerobics, i get enough sleep. so again, standard responses suggesting those fixes are out.
i've heard all the standard stuff and tried it all, NOTHING WORKS.
so, any crazy ideas?
for example i was reading hakuins autobiography and he sat across from another monk and they agreed too hit each other with a stick if either fell asleep lol!
he also quotes a story where a monk would stab himself in the leg with a gimlet every time he fell asleep, i'm not interested in lingering injury, that's a bit too far. but i need some ideas beyond the standard, obvious suggestions that everyone always gives (not that they are bad, many are wonderful, they just don't work for me personally).
conversely, what happens if i just keep meditating? normally i set my timer for an hour or hour and a half and i quit if i find that i'm falling asleep over and over with no hope of getting past it. usually if twenty minutes or so goes by and it was mostly dreamy sleepy states i get up and go on about my day. but can you just keep going and get past this? can mindfulness form too the point that you can see this from afar and create a part of your mind too stay alert even in this state (dream yoga comes too mind, but that's a whole other game, ballpark, and universe)? if so, when do i give up? if i spend eight hours sitting while sleeping, that's a whole nights sleep lol! help!!!!!
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on Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:35 am, edited 1 time in total.
The time would not pass. Somebody was playing with the clocks, and not only the electronic clocks but the wind-up kind too. The second hand on my watch would twitch once, and a year would pass, and then it would twitch again.
There was nothing I could do about it. As an Earthling I had to believe whatever clocks said -and calendars.”
― Kurt Vonnegut, Slaughterhouse-Five