Magoo wrote:Johnny, obvioulsy you are perfectly entitled to your view so I have no problem with that. But if 100 million Buddhist in the world made a collective decision to not eat meat, it would then have an impact on the meat/slaughter trade?
Taking oneself as an individual in the grand scheme of things, then you are right, your decision to eat meat will not have an impact and more particular would not have meant that a particular chicken you had eaten would not have been killed anyway..
It is personnel choice, but it also could depend on the conditions of the landscape in which one lives. Some places dont have good soil or climate for growing vegetables and thus meat is a staple of the diet. Other places such as Australia, where I am from have easy access to every food imaginable. Therefore there is a choice of what to eat?
I may be wrong here, and probably am once again, but maybe the part of India that the Buddha lived, there was not much choice but rice and meat for sustainance?
if ALL of them did then yes. however this is never going too happen. if this were a possibility, i too would stop eating meat. i will eat meat as long as it makes no difference. and please don't try too say that if i get on the band wagon then everyone else will or some version of that, like if everyone thinks the same it will work. look at the green initiative, a tiny fraction of people actually "go green" the majority do whatever is easiest. this is the way of man and always will be.
if the pali canon said "no meat" then there would be hope, but it does not, so a massive amount of buddhists will never stop. and that's just pali canon buddhists! the mahayana sutras specifically speak out against meat eating. so that's not too mention all the lay mahayana buddhists who are not that dedicated too all of this. many meditate once a month or not at all, drop a stick of incense on a statue once a week and call it a day. other than that they do what they please and are no more "buddhist" than your average person who claims no religion. heck i know at least five "buddhists" personally who don't even drop the incense or meditate! they do nothing! they drink alcohol and party, they just say "i'm buddhist" because they were raised that way and their parents and grandparents were "buddhist", probably in the same way. these categories of buddhists actually constitute a large amount of people who call themselves "buddhist". as long as this is the case, your idea has ZERO hope. actually it might be in the negative. totally impossible. although it is a beautiful idea just the same and i appreciate the thought
too be clear, i have nothing against these types of buddhists, the ones i know personally are very close friends actually, but as a demographic they are a big part of the reason there will never be enough buddhist vegetarians too make a difference and so it was necessary too mention them.
The time would not pass. Somebody was playing with the clocks, and not only the electronic clocks but the wind-up kind too. The second hand on my watch would twitch once, and a year would pass, and then it would twitch again.
There was nothing I could do about it. As an Earthling I had to believe whatever clocks said -and calendars.”
― Kurt Vonnegut, Slaughterhouse-Five