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by Majjhima Patipada » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:04 pm
I'm about to invest in a printed copy of the Samyutta Nikaya, Bhikkhu Bodhi's translation, as it is one Nikaya for which I can't seem to locate all suttas online. The length on Amazon is listed at 2080 pages. How much does this amount to in thickness? Either inches or centimeters will suffice.
Thanks.
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by daverupa » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:33 pm
There are two ways to get it, in one volume or two. I have the one-volume version, and it's about 3 in./8 cm. thick (I'm working from memory). The binding is decent, but with moderate use the glue can fail in places along the spine and compromise the integrity of the thing, so two volumes may be better although I can't recall where the volume split occurs in terms of content.

"There is, headman, dhammasamādhi. If you were to obtain cittasamādhi in that, you might abandon this state of perplexity. And what, headman, is dhammasamādhi?
[kammapatha & brahmavihara, & a method of arousing gladness]"
- SN 42.13 - Pāṭaliya"Others will misapprehend according to their individual views, hold on to them tenaciously and not easily discard them; we shall not misapprehend according to individual views nor hold on to them tenaciously, but shall discard them with ease — thus effacement can be done."
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by Majjhima Patipada » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:52 pm
Thank you. The choice of one-volume vs. two-volumes was exactly why I asked after reading some reviews about the binding. Thanks again.
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by BKh » Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:30 pm
Recently they seem to have changed the binding on the Middle Length and Connected Discourses. Previously they were the "perfect" binding which was far from perfect. Now they seem to use a new method that combines signatures (sections of pages folded together) and glue. It should be much more durrable than the previous bindings. They have also switched the paper to a slightly thicker stock.
(If you were getting the edition co-published by PTS, I think they are still the old binding.)
The copy of the SN I have is the single volume perfect binding with the thin paper. It is 2.75 inches. I don't think the thicker stock would put it over three inches if that.
Personally I much prefer the single volume as I'm not constantly having to figure out which book to look in. If you wanted the two volume set I think you would have to buy it used. And although each book would be smaller, it would be the "perfect" binding still prone to cracking. (Sorry for the scare quotes, but since it is in every way not a perfect binding, I can't help myself)
The new AN will be coming out as a single volume, btw. It will probably be about the same size as the SN.
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by retrofuturist » Wed Aug 01, 2012 11:06 pm
Greetings,
Yes, it's pretty big isn't it. By all account the Anguttara Nikaya will be even larger.
As an aside, I put all the Theravada Dhamma books I've read into a box yesterday and move it from one room to another.
Now I have a sore back!
Putting heavy, dense books into the biggest box I could find probably wasn't the smartest move.
Metta,
Retro.

If you have asked me of the origination of unease, then I shall explain it to you in accordance with my understanding:
Whatever various forms of unease there are in the world, They originate founded in encumbering accumulation. (Pārāyanavagga)'We should not congratulate someone on the success of their misdeeds, but on the contrary should endeavour to advise him or her to lead a more skilful and wholesome life. If such advice is ignored then we can only give up and let go' - Phra PanyapatipoDharma Wheel (Mahayana / Vajrayana forum)
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by bodom » Wed Aug 01, 2012 11:24 pm
retrofuturist wrote:Greetings,
Yes, it's pretty big isn't it. By all account the Anguttara Nikaya will be even larger.
Hey Retro
I initially thought the same but after checking Wisdom Pubs website it says Bodhi's new Anguttara translation is 1936 pages compared to his Samyutta translation which in the single volume is 2080 pages.

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by retrofuturist » Wed Aug 01, 2012 11:28 pm
Greetings Bodom,
Interesting!
Well, I suppose that's a good thing as far as my back in concerned.
Metta,
Retro.

If you have asked me of the origination of unease, then I shall explain it to you in accordance with my understanding:
Whatever various forms of unease there are in the world, They originate founded in encumbering accumulation. (Pārāyanavagga)'We should not congratulate someone on the success of their misdeeds, but on the contrary should endeavour to advise him or her to lead a more skilful and wholesome life. If such advice is ignored then we can only give up and let go' - Phra PanyapatipoDharma Wheel (Mahayana / Vajrayana forum)
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by danieLion » Thu Aug 02, 2012 6:31 am
Get a workout while you read. At least half of my upper body strength exercise comes from manipulating this book!

"You stop me, obviously with a demand for a personal explanation. 'How is it, you write, 'that you reject with such immitigable scorn the very foundation-stones of Buddhism, and yet refer disciples enthusiastically to the technique of some of its subtlest super-structures?'
I laff."
-Aleister Crowley,
Magick Without Tears,
Chapter XXVII: Structure of Mind Based on that of Body (Haeckel and Bertrand Russell)"Questions of reality are too important to be left to the scientists."
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The Tyranny of Science, p. 51 (Polity: 2012).
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