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which path too take?

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johnny
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which path too take?

Postby johnny » Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:45 am

the buddha taught a vast variety of different methods and practices in the pali canon.

how do you decide which one too do?

which practices are the most connected too which?

as far as i can tell, you need too fulfill the three trainings of concentration, morality and wisdom (and within that the eightfold path).

i just picked for myself through trial and error:

satipatthana and sutta study (and lots and lots of general study of many authors and articles on the dhamma) for wisdom

anapanasati for jhana (concentration)

and the precepts (obviously you don't have too pick) for morality.

side note:

i know it is systematized in the visuddimaggha, i find that book too be wonderful and indispensable, but i didn't really identify with it's methods of picking practices by personality types. so i was wondering if there is any clue in the canon about this? and i'm also interested in what actual practitioners on here think, or views from modern teachers and/or other teachers throughout history.
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Re: which path too take?

Postby manas » Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:26 am

Hi johnny

it does not make sense to me that the Buddha would have taught different 'paths'. There is only one Path, and we all know what that is. I might still be, relatively speaking, a neophyte in this Dhamma & Discipline, but the more I study and practice it, the more I perceive a fundamental unity throughout all the various 'teachings' the Buddha gave.

So I don't see why you have to 'choose' between any of the above mentioned. Do them all; they all fall under the umbrella of the Noble Eightfold Path.

The Satipatthana sutta explains samma sati in depth;

Jhana is samma samadhi (it should be undertaken with the correct motivation, however); and

The precepts cover samma vaca, samma kammanta and samma ajiva (unless I'm mistaken).

All that is left then, is samma ditthi, samma sankappa and samma vayama. Which, since you are studying the suttas, you would be increasingly familiar with as well.

Just keep refining the entire Path, that's what we all need to do. In particular, strive to enter into right view (that's what I'm trying to do also).

:anjali:
Then the Blessed One, picking up a tiny bit of dust with the tip of his fingernail, said to the monk, "There isn't even this much form...feeling...
perception...fabrications...consciousness that is constant, lasting, eternal, not subject to change, that will stay just as it is as long as eternity."

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Re: which path too take?

Postby LonesomeYogurt » Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:32 am

Gain and loss, status and disgrace,
censure and praise, pleasure and pain:
these conditions among human beings are inconstant,
impermanent, subject to change.

Knowing this, the wise person, mindful,
ponders these changing conditions.
Desirable things don’t charm the mind,
undesirable ones bring no resistance.

His welcoming and rebelling are scattered,
gone to their end,
do not exist.
- Lokavipatti Sutta


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Re: which path too take?

Postby David2 » Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:03 am

In the long run, to get a good intellectual understanding of the Buddha's path, it is very good to learn Pali and read the Palicanon in Pali (with the help of a dictionary and one or two translations.)

To know which practice suits you best, it's also good to attend retreats in traditions that seem to be most interesting to you.

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Re: which path too take?

Postby johnny » Fri Aug 03, 2012 6:11 am

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The time would not pass. Somebody was playing with the clocks, and not only the electronic clocks but the wind-up kind too. The second hand on my watch would twitch once, and a year would pass, and then it would twitch again.
There was nothing I could do about it. As an Earthling I had to believe whatever clocks said -and calendars.”
― Kurt Vonnegut, Slaughterhouse-Five

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Re: which path too take?

Postby johnny » Fri Aug 03, 2012 6:14 am

The time would not pass. Somebody was playing with the clocks, and not only the electronic clocks but the wind-up kind too. The second hand on my watch would twitch once, and a year would pass, and then it would twitch again.
There was nothing I could do about it. As an Earthling I had to believe whatever clocks said -and calendars.”
― Kurt Vonnegut, Slaughterhouse-Five

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Re: which path too take?

Postby reflection » Sat Aug 04, 2012 9:15 pm

It's not about choosing a specific path. It's learning about ourselfs and through that we learn what practices are suitable for the mind at a specific moment. And you have to find out for yourself which practices those are by trying them a bit.

Also, you divided your practice into groups, but the three go together really. Morality is a practice needed for samadhi also. And samadhi leads to wisdom. This is why there is the order of sila, samadhi, panna. It's not an accident. ;) So if you want to study suttas and articles, that's great, but that is not the way to develop wisdom in itself.

It's the entire 8-fold path that needs to be practiced. In the beginning it may seem like there are many practices, but in fact they are all one thng. And that basically comes down to being heedful and willing to let go.

With metta,
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