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Accepting Rebirth

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Accepting Rebirth

Postby Sindre » Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:46 am

"When, Bahiya, for you in the seen is merely what is seen... in the cognized is merely what is cognized, then, Bahiya, you will not be 'with that.' When, Bahiya, you are not 'with that,' then, Bahiya, you will not be 'in that.' When, Bahiya, you are not 'in that,' then, Bahiya, you will be neither here nor beyond nor in between the two. Just this is the end of suffering."

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Re: Accepting Rebirth

Postby tiltbillings » Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:05 am

Moderator's note: Please keep this sharply to the OP's question. Those who might think the Buddha did not teach rebirth can refer Sindre to "The Great Rebirth Debate" thread: viewtopic.php?f=16&t=41 .

Here rebirth is the topic.

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Re: Accepting Rebirth

Postby Cittasanto » Tue Jun 09, 2009 12:22 pm



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Accepting Rebirth

Postby kc2dpt » Tue Jun 09, 2009 3:26 pm

- Peter


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Re: Accepting Rebirth

Postby Samanera Tris Andika » Tue Jun 09, 2009 3:35 pm

:goodpost: :anjali:
"Sabbe Satta Bhavantu Sukhitatta
Dhamma is Amazing ,Logic and we must proud

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Re: Accepting Rebirth

Postby Sindre » Tue Jun 09, 2009 4:51 pm

Hi Manapa, Hi Peter, Hi all

This was very helpful to me. Thanks alot for your answers. :namaste:

Mettaya,
Sindre :)
"When, Bahiya, for you in the seen is merely what is seen... in the cognized is merely what is cognized, then, Bahiya, you will not be 'with that.' When, Bahiya, you are not 'with that,' then, Bahiya, you will not be 'in that.' When, Bahiya, you are not 'in that,' then, Bahiya, you will be neither here nor beyond nor in between the two. Just this is the end of suffering."

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Re: Accepting Rebirth

Postby clw_uk » Tue Jun 09, 2009 5:21 pm

Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken

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Re: Accepting Rebirth

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Re: Accepting Rebirth

Postby clw_uk » Tue Jun 09, 2009 6:10 pm

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Re: Accepting Rebirth

Postby kc2dpt » Tue Jun 09, 2009 6:14 pm

- Peter


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Re: Accepting Rebirth

Postby clw_uk » Tue Jun 09, 2009 6:33 pm

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Re: Accepting Rebirth

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Re: Accepting Rebirth

Postby clw_uk » Tue Jun 09, 2009 6:58 pm

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Re: Accepting Rebirth

Postby tiltbillings » Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:59 pm

Moderator's note: We see here the position that holds rebirth, at best, to not a having an important place or role to play in the Buddha's teachings. This has been discussed/argued at length in this thread: viewtopic.php?f=16&t=41 . Rather than turn present thread into a variation of a still active thread, I would ask again that those who hold rebirth to not having a central role to play in the Buddha's to refer Sindre to viewtopic.php?f=16&t=41 and continue the discussion there, please.

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Re: Accepting Rebirth

Postby clw_uk » Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:05 pm

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Re: Accepting Rebirth

Postby tiltbillings » Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:14 pm

As the moderator, I shall state this one more time: It is not unreasonable that we do not turn this thread into another version of what is already a lengthy on going, active thread. It is not unreasonable to split up the subject matter in this way to allow both discussions to go forth in separate threads. That allows for more and varied opinions and thoughts to be expressed with out turning one thread into a variation of another. Also, please not that this thread has been moved.

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Re: Accepting Rebirth

Postby pink_trike » Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:19 am

Vision is Mind
Mind is Empty
Emptiness is Clear Light
Clear Light is Union
Union is Great Bliss

- Dawa Gyaltsen

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Disclaimer: I'm a non-religious practitioner of Theravada, Mahayana/Vajrayana, and Tibetan Bon Dzogchen mind-training.

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Re: Accepting Rebirth

Postby Individual » Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:59 am

The best things in life aren't things.


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Re: Accepting Rebirth

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Re: Accepting Rebirth

Postby jcsuperstar » Wed Jun 10, 2009 3:40 am

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the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat


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