retrofuturist wrote:Greetings Darwid,DarwidHalim wrote:So, how can there are aggregate of feeling, perception, etc., when there is no owner?
Since there is no owner that ever make them.
Because when one erroneously perceives an owner for them, that "owner" itself is a perception etc. and lands back in the domain of the aggregates.
If we don't have the verb, it is illogical to have the result of the verb.
Buddha clearly said in his higher teaching that there is no self (subject), actually not only on human, but across the board including every phenomena.
If there is subject, it is then very illogical there are characteristic of the subject, such as feeling, perception, etc.
Like you said it is because erroneously putting subject then there is such thing as feeling, perception, etc.
Like discussing the shape of rabbit horn, what is the shape of rabbit horn, what is the color, how many type of rabbit horn.
But, really there is no point at all to discuss all of those rabbit horn, because in the first place that horn is not there. There is no horn to be analyzed. The rabbit horn is erroneously imagined.
In the similar way, these 5 aggregates are exactly purely imagination, which is raised based on erroneously perceiving there is subject.
Since self (subject) is purely imaginary and is never there, we can the conclude with absolute certainty all 5 aggregates are just papanca imaginary, like discussing rabbit horns.
Rabbit horn is just an idea, just a fantasy.
All 5 aggregates (feeling, perceptions, mental formations, etc) are also just a fantasy, an idea of mad man, of confused beings.