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World Population Clock - disturbing

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World Population Clock - disturbing

Postby manas » Sat Aug 11, 2012 10:35 pm

http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/

I note that there is also a steady trickle of 'deaths' along with the 'births', but overall, we seem to be a species who might still need to be restrained by Nature, rather than our own much-vaunted 'superior intelligence' and 'rationality', when it comes to not expanding in sheer numbers beyond what the available resources can sustainably provide. If we are really 'smarter than the animals' we will stop 'breeding like rabbits'!

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Re: World Population Clock - disturbing

Postby Alex123 » Sat Aug 11, 2012 10:55 pm

Unfortunately radiation from Fukushima, industrial pollutions and other similar events will change all that... I wouldn't be surprised if humans would die out in the next thousand years unless some extraordinary technological breakthrough...
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Postby Ben » Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:39 am

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Re: World Population Clock - disturbing

Postby Alex123 » Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:00 pm

"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Re: World Population Clock - disturbing

Postby manas » Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:09 pm

Hi Alex, and everyone,

It just occurred to me, I think we might be able to expand the population further, with advances in technology and thus future food production, but at the cost of the rest of the Earth's environment, and other species; we could end up surviving, but on a relatively barren Earth, as compared with what we still have today.

I can think of two approaches that are proven to work. One is that, as poor people get educated, especially the womenfolk, they usually have less children. But (sadly) I don't think there is the political will to undertake that option, in which case there is also the 'Chinese govt solution' - pass laws worldwide, with the agreement of all the major governments, to provide incentives for people to have only one or two children, but no more. I don't like this solution, but if it is between that and ruining the Earth's ecosystems, I would choose govt interference. But a declining population could 'harm economic growth', the sacred cow of the current status quo. No wonder we are in such dire trouble!
Then the Blessed One, picking up a tiny bit of dust with the tip of his fingernail, said to the monk, "There isn't even this much form...feeling...
perception...fabrications...consciousness that is constant, lasting, eternal, not subject to change, that will stay just as it is as long as eternity."

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Re: World Population Clock - disturbing

Postby Ytrog » Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:40 pm

If we are going to talk about how fast resources are spend on this world I have an excellent talk by dr. about the exponential function, it's effect on resources and why there is no such thing as sustainable growth: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vII-GxsrR2c
I realize it is lengthy but it is also quite profound in it's message and I found it very interesting. I recommend watching it completely. :sage:

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Postby danieLion » Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:44 am

Believing population growth is something to worry about is just sublimated self importance. It creates the illusion of control where there is little or none.

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Re: World Population Clock - disturbing

Postby Dan74 » Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:47 am

Would it be better if assertions in all posts here were actually supported by facts referenced from reputable sources?

I mean we can all shout our opinions passionately past each other 'till the cows come home, but what are we actually trying to achieve with this?
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