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I am sure there is a lesson in this somewhere

Postby tiltbillings » Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:39 am

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What is the use of his knowledge
pertaining to the number of insects in the whole world?
Rather, inquire into his knowledge of
that which is to be practised by us

-- Dharmakirti

This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
SN I, 38.

Níl sa saol seo ach ceo
There is naught in this life but mist
Is ní bheimid beo ach seal beag gearr.
And we will not be alive but a short hard time.
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Re: I am sure there is a lesson in this somewhere

Postby Ben » Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:48 am

I'm sure there is, too.
...he wondered whether there was any love between human beings that did not rest upon some sort of self-delusion.

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Re: I am sure there is a lesson in this somewhere

Postby Kim O'Hara » Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:58 am

A very very quiet lesson, though.

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Re: I am sure there is a lesson in this somewhere

Postby daverupa » Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:07 pm

Commentary:

"very very Image lesson" it is said... :stirthepot:
    "There is, headman, dhammasamādhi. If you were to obtain cittasamādhi in that, you might abandon this state of perplexity. And what, headman, is dhammasamādhi?

    [kammapatha & brahmavihara, & a method of arousing gladness]"
- SN 42.13 - Pāṭaliya


    "Others will misapprehend according to their individual views, hold on to them tenaciously and not easily discard them; we shall not misapprehend according to individual views nor hold on to them tenaciously, but shall discard them with ease — thus effacement can be done."
- MN 8 - Sallekha Sutta
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Re: I am sure there is a lesson in this somewhere

Postby mikenz66 » Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:42 pm

Perhaps Venerable Mahakaccana will be along presently to expound the meaning in detail...

:anjali:
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Re: I am sure there is a lesson in this somewhere

Postby David N. Snyder » Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:41 pm

I thought of a possible lesson:

Greed can kill.

Don't know for sure but think the toad may die or get injured from taking on more than he can handle / digest.
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Re: I am sure there is a lesson in this somewhere

Postby polarbuddha101 » Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:02 pm

must be some strange Koan, haha. All I see is a question mark with a blue box around it
"I don't envision a single thing that, when developed & cultivated, leads to such great benefit as the mind. The mind, when developed & cultivated, leads to great benefit."

"I don't envision a single thing that, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about such suffering & stress as the mind. The mind, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about suffering & stress."
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Re: I am sure there is a lesson in this somewhere

Postby Ytrog » Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:47 pm

polarbuddha101 wrote:must be some strange Koan, haha. All I see is a question mark with a blue box around it

Me too :(

EDIT

When I open it in a new tab it says "attachment removed". While this is normally a good thing for us Buddhists it is slightly inconvenient now ;)
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Re: I am sure there is a lesson in this somewhere

Postby Modus.Ponens » Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:56 pm

Can you put the link, Tilt? I too don't see the picture.
The sentence in my signature is false
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Re: I am sure there is a lesson in this somewhere

Postby dharmagoat » Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:45 pm

The attachment got fried somehow.
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Re: I am sure there is a lesson in this somewhere

Postby daverupa » Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:52 pm

dharmagoat wrote:The attachment got fried somehow.


ba-dum *ksh*
    "There is, headman, dhammasamādhi. If you were to obtain cittasamādhi in that, you might abandon this state of perplexity. And what, headman, is dhammasamādhi?

    [kammapatha & brahmavihara, & a method of arousing gladness]"
- SN 42.13 - Pāṭaliya


    "Others will misapprehend according to their individual views, hold on to them tenaciously and not easily discard them; we shall not misapprehend according to individual views nor hold on to them tenaciously, but shall discard them with ease — thus effacement can be done."
- MN 8 - Sallekha Sutta
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Re: I am sure there is a lesson in this somewhere

Postby tiltbillings » Tue Aug 21, 2012 12:54 am

For those who could not see the picture and now wish they hadn't:
Image

What is the use of his knowledge
pertaining to the number of insects in the whole world?
Rather, inquire into his knowledge of
that which is to be practised by us

-- Dharmakirti

This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
SN I, 38.

Níl sa saol seo ach ceo
There is naught in this life but mist
Is ní bheimid beo ach seal beag gearr.
And we will not be alive but a short hard time.
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Re: I am sure there is a lesson in this somewhere

Postby Ben » Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:23 am

And there I was thinking it was some sort of subversive commentary on my role as administrator!!
Oh the horror!
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Re: I am sure there is a lesson in this somewhere

Postby Kim O'Hara » Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:55 am

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Tilt,
I could not see the picture and still can't. I'm not sure I want to, but 12 posts about a mystery subject is as irritating as a pebble in my shoe ... enlighten us, if you can, in words.

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Re: I am sure there is a lesson in this somewhere

Postby lament » Tue Aug 21, 2012 3:36 am

The lesson I took from that is that an animal's life is incredibly unpleasant at times.
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Re: I am sure there is a lesson in this somewhere

Postby danieLion » Tue Aug 21, 2012 3:58 am

Lesson?:
What is one?
All beings subsist on food.
-Kuddakapatha 4
"You stop me, obviously with a demand for a personal explanation. 'How is it, you write, 'that you reject with such immitigable scorn the very foundation-stones of Buddhism, and yet refer disciples enthusiastically to the technique of some of its subtlest super-structures?'

I laff."

-Aleister Crowley, Magick Without Tears, Chapter XXVII: Structure of Mind Based on that of Body (Haeckel and Bertrand Russell)

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Re: I am sure there is a lesson in this somewhere

Postby danieLion » Tue Aug 21, 2012 3:59 am

Or:
Don't go down dark tunnels?
"You stop me, obviously with a demand for a personal explanation. 'How is it, you write, 'that you reject with such immitigable scorn the very foundation-stones of Buddhism, and yet refer disciples enthusiastically to the technique of some of its subtlest super-structures?'

I laff."

-Aleister Crowley, Magick Without Tears, Chapter XXVII: Structure of Mind Based on that of Body (Haeckel and Bertrand Russell)

"Questions of reality are too important to be left to the scientists."
-Paul Feyerbend, The Tyranny of Science, p. 51 (Polity: 2012).
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Re: I am sure there is a lesson in this somewhere

Postby manas » Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:07 am

I felt a sense of horror while looking at it. But if it had been the other way around - ie, a rodent eating a toad - it would not have had as much emotional impact, because the little rat-like creature is cute, and the toad is,,,horrible and ugly.

The lesson? Try to avoid being reborn as an animal, where this kind of miserable end is commonplace, maybe?

:anjali:
When this is, that is.
From the arising of this comes the arising of that.
When this isn't, that isn't.
From the cessation of this comes the cessation of that.
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Re: I am sure there is a lesson in this somewhere

Postby tiltbillings » Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:24 am

danieLion wrote:Or:
Don't go down dark tunnels?
Isn't that an admonition for male celibacy?

What is the use of his knowledge
pertaining to the number of insects in the whole world?
Rather, inquire into his knowledge of
that which is to be practised by us

-- Dharmakirti

This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
SN I, 38.

Níl sa saol seo ach ceo
There is naught in this life but mist
Is ní bheimid beo ach seal beag gearr.
And we will not be alive but a short hard time.
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