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I am sure there is a lesson in this somewhere

Postby tiltbillings » Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:39 am

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This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
SN I, 38.

Ar scáth a chéile a mhaireas na daoine.
People live in one another’s shelter.

"We eat cold eels and think distant thoughts." -- Jack Johnson
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Re: I am sure there is a lesson in this somewhere

Postby Ben » Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:48 am

I'm sure there is, too.
Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.

Taṃ nadīhi vijānātha:
sobbhesu padaresu ca,
saṇantā yanti kusobbhā,
tuṇhīyanti mahodadhī.

Sutta Nipata 3.725


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Re: I am sure there is a lesson in this somewhere

Postby Kim OHara » Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:58 am

A very very quiet lesson, though.

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Re: I am sure there is a lesson in this somewhere

Postby daverupa » Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:07 pm

Commentary:

"very very Image lesson" it is said... :stirthepot:
    "And how is it, bhikkhus, that by protecting oneself one protects others? By the pursuit, development, and cultivation of the four establishments of mindfulness. It is in such a way that by protecting oneself one protects others.

    "And how is it, bhikkhus, that by protecting others one protects oneself? By patience, harmlessness, goodwill, and sympathy. It is in such a way that by protecting others one protects oneself.
- Sedaka Sutta [SN 47.19]
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Re: I am sure there is a lesson in this somewhere

Postby mikenz66 » Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:42 pm

Perhaps Venerable Mahakaccana will be along presently to expound the meaning in detail...

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Re: I am sure there is a lesson in this somewhere

Postby David N. Snyder » Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:41 pm

I thought of a possible lesson:

Greed can kill.

Don't know for sure but think the toad may die or get injured from taking on more than he can handle / digest.
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Re: I am sure there is a lesson in this somewhere

Postby polarbuddha101 » Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:02 pm

must be some strange Koan, haha. All I see is a question mark with a blue box around it
"I don't envision a single thing that, when developed & cultivated, leads to such great benefit as the mind. The mind, when developed & cultivated, leads to great benefit."

"I don't envision a single thing that, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about such suffering & stress as the mind. The mind, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about suffering & stress."
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Re: I am sure there is a lesson in this somewhere

Postby Ytrog » Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:47 pm

polarbuddha101 wrote:must be some strange Koan, haha. All I see is a question mark with a blue box around it

Me too :(

EDIT

When I open it in a new tab it says "attachment removed". While this is normally a good thing for us Buddhists it is slightly inconvenient now ;)
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Re: I am sure there is a lesson in this somewhere

Postby Modus.Ponens » Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:56 pm

Can you put the link, Tilt? I too don't see the picture.
And the Blessed One addressed the bhikkhus, saying: "Behold now, bhikkhus, I exhort you: All compounded things are subject to vanish. Strive with earnestness!"
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Re: I am sure there is a lesson in this somewhere

Postby dharmagoat » Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:45 pm

The attachment got fried somehow.
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Re: I am sure there is a lesson in this somewhere

Postby daverupa » Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:52 pm

dharmagoat wrote:The attachment got fried somehow.


ba-dum *ksh*
    "And how is it, bhikkhus, that by protecting oneself one protects others? By the pursuit, development, and cultivation of the four establishments of mindfulness. It is in such a way that by protecting oneself one protects others.

    "And how is it, bhikkhus, that by protecting others one protects oneself? By patience, harmlessness, goodwill, and sympathy. It is in such a way that by protecting others one protects oneself.
- Sedaka Sutta [SN 47.19]
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Re: I am sure there is a lesson in this somewhere

Postby tiltbillings » Tue Aug 21, 2012 12:54 am

For those who could not see the picture and now wish they hadn't:
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This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
SN I, 38.

Ar scáth a chéile a mhaireas na daoine.
People live in one another’s shelter.

"We eat cold eels and think distant thoughts." -- Jack Johnson
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Re: I am sure there is a lesson in this somewhere

Postby Ben » Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:23 am

And there I was thinking it was some sort of subversive commentary on my role as administrator!!
Oh the horror!
Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.

Taṃ nadīhi vijānātha:
sobbhesu padaresu ca,
saṇantā yanti kusobbhā,
tuṇhīyanti mahodadhī.

Sutta Nipata 3.725


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Re: I am sure there is a lesson in this somewhere

Postby Kim OHara » Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:55 am

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Tilt,
I could not see the picture and still can't. I'm not sure I want to, but 12 posts about a mystery subject is as irritating as a pebble in my shoe ... enlighten us, if you can, in words.

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Re: I am sure there is a lesson in this somewhere

Postby David N. Snyder » Tue Aug 21, 2012 3:12 am

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Re: I am sure there is a lesson in this somewhere

Postby lament » Tue Aug 21, 2012 3:36 am

The lesson I took from that is that an animal's life is incredibly unpleasant at times.
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Re: I am sure there is a lesson in this somewhere

Postby danieLion » Tue Aug 21, 2012 3:58 am

Lesson?:
What is one?
All beings subsist on food.
-Kuddakapatha 4
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Re: I am sure there is a lesson in this somewhere

Postby danieLion » Tue Aug 21, 2012 3:59 am

Or:
Don't go down dark tunnels?
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Re: I am sure there is a lesson in this somewhere

Postby manas » Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:07 am

I felt a sense of horror while looking at it. But if it had been the other way around - ie, a rodent eating a toad - it would not have had as much emotional impact, because the little rat-like creature is cute, and the toad is,,,horrible and ugly.

The lesson? Try to avoid being reborn as an animal, where this kind of miserable end is commonplace, maybe?

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Re: I am sure there is a lesson in this somewhere

Postby tiltbillings » Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:24 am

danieLion wrote:Or:
Don't go down dark tunnels?
Isn't that an admonition for male celibacy?
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
SN I, 38.

Ar scáth a chéile a mhaireas na daoine.
People live in one another’s shelter.

"We eat cold eels and think distant thoughts." -- Jack Johnson
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