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Theravāda Sectarian Attitudes

Exploring Theravāda's connections to other paths. What can we learn from other traditions, religions and philosophies?
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Re: Theravāda Sectarian Attitudes

Postby retrofuturist » Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:51 pm

Greetings,

(In what risks becoming something of a train wreck...)

May everyone, regardless of your perspectives, please endeavour to express them in a manner which is clear, calm and mutually respectful.

If we can do that, something useful take-outs from the discussion might actually be possible...


:thanks:

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Re: Theravāda Sectarian Attitudes

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Re: Theravāda Sectarian Attitudes

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Then the Blessed One, picking up a tiny bit of dust with the tip of his fingernail, said to the monk, "There isn't even this much form...feeling...
perception...fabrications...consciousness that is constant, lasting, eternal, not subject to change, that will stay just as it is as long as eternity."

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Re: Theravāda Sectarian Attitudes

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Re: Theravāda Sectarian Attitudes

Postby Dan74 » Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:49 am

I suspect we would save ourselves a lot of trouble if we replaced assertions by questions or phrased them as provisional explorations rather than statements of fact, when they are not. Goes back to the belief in ones objectivity and in having arrived at the Truth, I suppose.

It would also be a lot more fun in engage in such explorations rather than slanging matches.
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Re: Theravāda Sectarian Attitudes

Postby Ben » Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:51 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Theravāda Sectarian Attitudes

Postby ground » Wed Aug 22, 2012 3:50 am

If one takes the aggregates as "mine" or identifies the aggregates as "I" then one may become a religious follower of any system of written words. Then, if one has not overcome ill-will one may have negative attitudes against what is not considered to be "I" or "mine".

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Re: Theravāda Sectarian Attitudes

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Re: Theravāda Sectarian Attitudes

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Re: Theravāda Sectarian Attitudes

Postby santa100 » Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:51 pm

suttametta wrote:
"Clearly, Buddha does not avoid identifying nibbana's qualities"

Nibbana is not a conditioned entity, thus it's free of all dualistic attributes. Although one could describe its qualities, the qualities themselves are not Nibbana. Just like fire has the quality of warmth and brightness and yet, warmth and brightness are not fire itself. That's why when it comes to describing Nibbana, the "apophasis" approach is employed. Apophasis means the use of negation statments to express an ineffable supramundane state that could only be "touched" by personal experience. We are still the fishes living underneath the deep ocean that are yet to have the firsthand glimpse of the sun. So, until then, we just have to trust the Buddha and His apophatic descriptions of Nibbana..

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