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Bhikkhuni Ordination performed - by Ajahn Brahmavamso

Discussion of ordination, the Vinaya and monastic life. How and where to ordain? Bhikkhuni ordination etc.
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Re: Bhikkhuni Ordination performed - by Ajahn Brahmavamso

Postby pilgrim » Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:08 pm

Aloka Vihara, originally intended for Amaravati's Siladaras in the USA, just announced that their Siladharas are taking bhikkhuni ordination and the constitution of the society will be amended to accomodate bhikkhunis....
I can just imagine the consternation all this activity in the colonies must be creating back in the home country.. :tongue:

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Re: Bhikkhuni Ordination performed - by Ajahn Brahmavamso

Postby Cittasanto » Fri Apr 22, 2011 11:04 am



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Postby phalanyani » Sat Apr 23, 2011 12:26 pm

Hi Manapa,

it's really nice to hear that the upcoming ordination of the Siladaras as Bhikkhunis in California will not have consternation as a result in England! Good news. And right from the source, right?
all the best for you!

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Re: Bhikkhuni Ordination performed - by Ajahn Brahmavamso

Postby Kaktus » Wed Apr 27, 2011 8:44 am

Can someone please help me understanding the differences between

- siladharas
- bhikkhunis
- dasasilamatas
- nun

Searching around one and the same label is used in different contexts. A definition of all these labels out of one source would help me a lot to understand the differences between them.

Thank you.
English isn´t my native language. So please accept my apologies for my kind of spelling and grammar ;-)

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Postby bodom » Wed Apr 27, 2011 11:32 pm

To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


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Postby Kaktus » Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:28 am

English isn´t my native language. So please accept my apologies for my kind of spelling and grammar ;-)

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Postby Cittasanto » Sun May 01, 2011 2:51 pm



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Postby pilgrim » Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:00 pm

Another sad little post in the series...

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Re: Bhikkhuni Ordination performed - by Ajahn Brahmavamso

Postby daverupa » Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:15 pm

"It is a shame that saccaparami was brainwashed into believing that those ordinations aren't legitimate."

Fixed that for you. Get well soon.

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Re: Bhikkhuni Ordination performed - by Ajahn Brahmavamso

Postby Thanavuddho » Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:05 pm

I think there are two different issues here: First is the issue of Ajahn Brahm and the other is about the bhikkhuni ordination. After considering both of this things, I think that meaby it is possible to have fully ordained bhikkhunis, at least in the West. This is perhaps a good idea. This is how I feel about it. 

I don't know if it is possible to have bhikkhunis here in Thailand. Meaby after they will be establised it the West first. Then in the future we can introduce them in Thailand as well. The senior monks are getting old and we will have a new generation of monks coming soon, both westeners and thais.

I would like to see Tan Chao Khun Brahmavamso accepted back to the larger international Wat Nong Pah Pong Sangha. I am afraid that this will not happen in the near future, at least not in the official level. But when the new generation of monks will be more senior, then meaby.

I think there were monks both western and thais who did not approve Ajahn Brahm and they got the opportunity to expel him from WNPP. They were extremely clumsy in dealing with the public media. They made themselves look really bad and Ajahn Brahm look like the shining hero of the story.
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Postby Thanavuddho » Wed Aug 29, 2012 4:01 pm

“Tasmātihānanda, attadīpā viharatha attasaraṇā anaññasaraṇā, dhammadīpā dhammasaraṇā anaññasaraṇā.”(DN16)
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Postby David N. Snyder » Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:49 pm

Excellent, Bhante!

It is okay to change one's mind after reviewing facts, it shows flexibility and an open mind.

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Re: Bhikkhuni Ordination performed - by Ajahn Brahmavamso

Postby lama tsewang » Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:26 pm

the quote from Dhammanando Bhikkhu is interesting , it was in one ofthe posts , it says that the Ven. Tao Hai of taiwan questions the lineages of Chinese Nuns,
Tao Hai is my upadhyaya , a few years back when he was in Vancouver , i was present w ith him when he spoke on this topic . He aid that some Tibetans wuestion the validity `of Chinese nuns , lineage.
He said that he does not question it s validity.
He said something VERY different from what is quoted by Dhammanando , please check your sources more carefully
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Re: Bhikkhuni Ordination performed - by Ajahn Brahmavamso

Postby lama tsewang » Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:37 pm

Is it true that there is now a law in Thailand that if any monks participate in making a woman a Bhikkhuni, they ca be jailed?
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Re: Bhikkhuni Ordination performed - by Ajahn Brahmavamso

Postby appicchato » Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:16 am

Tried to find out if this is true, but no luck so far...source?...

In Thailand, anything goes...so very well may be...

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Postby daverupa » Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:14 am

is an article from 2011; apparently they do not have legal recognition, so perhaps the jailed issue relates to this?

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Re: Bhikkhuni Ordination performed - by Ajahn Brahmavamso

Postby Dan74 » Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:37 am

By all acounts Ajahn Bram has a large busy and thriving Sangha to take care of in Western Australia. So even though the issue must be sad and upsetting, he has plenty of positive things to occupy himself with at home.
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