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Postby Sutiro » Sat Sep 01, 2012 5:57 am

Some say there are four jhanas, some say there are five, others say there are nine or more jhanas, but who is counting?

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Re: annatta

Postby Ben » Sat Sep 01, 2012 6:37 am

Who wants to know?
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Re: annatta

Postby cooran » Sat Sep 01, 2012 6:42 am

Hello satiro,
These articles may be informative:

Anatta
http://Www.buddhanet.net/nutshell09.htm

Jhanas
Http://accesstoinsight.org/lib/authors/ ... el351.html

With metta,
Chris
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---Worry is the Interest, paid in advance, on a debt you may never owe---
---It's not what happens to you in life that is important ~ it's what you do with it ---

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Re: annatta

Postby Sutiro » Sat Sep 01, 2012 7:03 am

Who indeed?

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Re: annatta

Postby DAWN » Sat Sep 01, 2012 5:16 pm

Sutiro wrote:Some say there are four jhanas, some say there are five, others say there are nine or more jhanas, but who is counting?


This is the question that meditator MUST to ask...

Who is wisely listening our internal voice of ego?
Sabbe dhamma anatta
We are not concurents...
I'am sorry for my english

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Re: annatta

Postby David N. Snyder » Sat Sep 01, 2012 5:23 pm

There are four jhanas and four formless realms, five formless realms when you include nirodha (cessation).

In the suttas when the talk is of jhanas and samma-samadhi, there is almost always the inclusion of the formless realms and the progression is from the four jhanas to the formless, so that for conventional usage it is common to refer to them as the 8 jhanas or 9 jhanas.


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