annatta

[Sutiro]

Some say there are four jhanas, some say there are five, others say there are nine or more jhanas, but who is counting?

[Ben]

Who wants to know?

[cooran]

Hello satiro,
These articles may be informative:

Anatta
http://Www.buddhanet.net/nutshell09.htm

Jhanas
Http://accesstoinsight.org/lib/authors/ ... el351.html

With metta,
Chris

[Sutiro]

Who indeed?

[DAWN]

Some say there are four jhanas, some say there are five, others say there are nine or more jhanas, but who is counting?

This is the question that meditator MUST to ask...

Who is wisely listening our internal voice of ego?

[David N. Snyder]

There are four jhanas and four formless realms, five formless realms when you include nirodha (cessation).

In the suttas when the talk is of jhanas and samma-samadhi, there is almost always the inclusion of the formless realms and the progression is from the four jhanas to the formless, so that for conventional usage it is common to refer to them as the 8 jhanas or 9 jhanas.