Selling medicine marijuana, is it violate the 5th precept

Buddhist ethical conduct including the Five Precepts (Pañcasikkhāpada), and Eightfold Ethical Conduct (Aṭṭhasīla).
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Re: Selling medicine marijuana, is it violate the 5th precept

Postby badscooter » Sat Sep 01, 2012 9:46 pm

"whatever one frequently thinks and ponders upon will be the inclination of one's mind"

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Re: Selling medicine marijuana, is it violate the 5th precept

Postby marc108 » Sat Sep 01, 2012 10:40 pm

"It's easy for us to connect with what's wrong with us... and not so easy to feel into, or to allow us, to connect with what's right and what's good in us."

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Re: Selling medicine marijuana, is it violate the 5th precept

Postby badscooter » Sat Sep 01, 2012 11:16 pm

"whatever one frequently thinks and ponders upon will be the inclination of one's mind"

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Postby Cittasanto » Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:53 am



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Postby Cittasanto » Sun Sep 02, 2012 9:25 am



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Postby Annapurna » Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:14 pm

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Re: Selling medicine marijuana, is it violate the 5th precept

Postby danieLion » Mon Sep 03, 2012 8:48 am

:stirthepot:

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Re: Selling medicine marijuana, is it violate the 5th precept

Postby Hanzze » Thu Sep 06, 2012 10:30 am

From an ordinary aspect, everybody is selling medicin who is inolved in selling (gaining something better form something). Selling something that abstracted or cheates the mind and in that way blockes intentional the view to reality and the possibility to act wholesome, can not easily calles to be not violating the 5th precept, even it might be subtile.

Individual situations as well as the individuall counciousness (with it the capacity of kusala intention) might be different and I guess the essay might be useful to understand the intention of the Buddha in regard of compassion. Dhukka is an importand part of the teaching pair to get free of it and not just suppressed for a while.
Just that! *smile*


BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: Selling medicine marijuana, is it violate the 5th precept

Postby manas » Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:46 pm

Hi all,

I think there is apprehension around marijuana due to it's almost universal suppression by most governments around the world, basically for financial reasons (eg, they make so much off taxes on alcohol, which can't be grown in one's backyard free of charge, and more to the point of this discussion, marijuana has so many possible healing effects that it would severely impact upon the profits of the pharmaceutical drug industry, should it's use become widespread - hence the strong suppression with laws, etc.) In the backs of our minds we might still think that government has our best interests at heart when they make marijuana 'illegal', but it's not our interests they are promoting in this instance.

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Re: Selling medicine marijuana, is it violate the 5th precept

Postby LonesomeYogurt » Thu Sep 06, 2012 10:06 pm

Gain and loss, status and disgrace,
censure and praise, pleasure and pain:
these conditions among human beings are inconstant,
impermanent, subject to change.

Knowing this, the wise person, mindful,
ponders these changing conditions.
Desirable things don’t charm the mind,
undesirable ones bring no resistance.

His welcoming and rebelling are scattered,
gone to their end,
do not exist.
- Lokavipatti Sutta


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Re: Selling medicine marijuana, is it violate the 5th precept

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Re: Selling medicine marijuana, is it violate the 5th precept

Postby Hanzze » Sat Sep 08, 2012 3:43 am

Just that! *smile*


BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: Selling medicine marijuana, is it violate the 5th precept

Postby danieLion » Sat Sep 08, 2012 5:30 am

Hanzze,
I'm glad you brought up ethanol. Ethanol has medicinal properties but they are usually outweighed by side effects. The medicinal properties of cannabis, in contrast, are much more numerous and the side effects are negligible. The same can be said for most opiate based and "anti-depressant" pharmaceuticals.


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Re: Selling medicine marijuana, is it violate the 5th precept

Postby Hanzze » Sat Sep 08, 2012 5:59 am

Just that! *smile*


BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: Selling medicine marijuana, is it violate the 5th precept

Postby danieLion » Sat Sep 08, 2012 6:23 am

Hanzze,
Where did the Buddha say cannabis is an intoxicant?

And now I'm even less clear by what you mean by "cheating."


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Re: Selling medicine marijuana, is it violate the 5th precept

Postby Hanzze » Sat Sep 08, 2012 6:44 am

Just that! *smile*


BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: Selling medicine marijuana, is it violate the 5th precept

Postby danieLion » Sat Sep 08, 2012 7:08 am

Hanzze,
Well, at least I know what you mean by "cheating" now, but the rest is just puritanism as far as I can tell.

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