Which sutta refers to the result of jhanas?

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Which sutta refers to the result of jhanas?

Postby hermitwin » Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:37 pm

I was told that jhanas results in 4 things ie stream-winner, once-returner,
non-returner and arahant.
Which sutta/s does this quote come from? thanks.
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Re: Which sutta refers to the result of jhanas?

Postby santa100 » Thu Aug 30, 2012 3:46 pm

Since the fruits means the elimination of the fetters (Stream Entry eliminates the first 3 lower fetters, Non Return eliminates the next 2, and Arahanship eliminates all 10), the Buddha recommended the practice of jhanas in MN 64 to help one eliminates the fetters and attain the fruits.. ( http://tipitaka.wikia.com/wiki/Maha-Malunkya_Sutta )
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Re: Which sutta refers to the result of jhanas?

Postby hermitwin » Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:22 pm

thanks santa.
is this the only one or are there other suttas?
cittasanto, care to chip in?
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Re: Which sutta refers to the result of jhanas?

Postby Sylvester » Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:42 am

I think you're thinking of the Pasadika Sutta, DN 29.

It does not actually say that the Jhanas lead to the 4 fruits. Rather, it says addiction to the pleasures of the Jhanas (sukhallikānuyoge anuyutta) leads to the 4 fruits.

You can see a contrast of this in the First Sermon, where the Buddha put down kāmesu kāmasukhallikānuyogo (sensual addiction) as an extreme to be avoided by a monastic. This mirrors the passage in DN 29, where one of the 4 sukhallikānuyoga that is criticised is the case of a person throwing himself into indulgence in the 5 cords of sensual pleasure/desire (pañcahi kāmaguṇehi samappito samaṅgībhūto paricāreti).
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Re: Which sutta refers to the result of jhanas?

Postby hermitwin » Sun Sep 02, 2012 1:57 pm

thanks, sylvester.
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