Ven. Vimalaramsi on the Abhidhamma & the Visuddhi Magga

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Re: Ven. Vimalaramsi on the Abhidhamma & the Visuddhi Magga

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Re: Ven. Vimalaramsi on the Abhidhamma & the Visuddhi Magga

Postby Ben » Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:56 am

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in mountain clefts and chasms,
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Re: Ven. Vimalaramsi on the Abhidhamma & the Visuddhi Magga

Postby robertk » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:06 am

dear Ben
that might be seen as slightly ironic given the amount of personal comments about the venerable on this thread.

I exchanged dozens or even over a hundred posts with the Ven Vimalaramsi and Khema (his disciple) some 8 years ago in triple gem and found him reasonable in his comments- which he does expand on if asked. We never reached much agreement of course, but that was as much due to my inflexibility regarding the veracity of the ancient Commentaries as anything else.
I just don't see that much difference between him and any other teacher who disputes the classical Theravada, so the apparent venom in this thread seems a tad unfair. Let's move onto the points in dispute and look at those rather than his background.

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Re: Ven. Vimalaramsi on the Abhidhamma & the Visuddhi Magga

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Re: Ven. Vimalaramsi on the Abhidhamma & the Visuddhi Magga

Postby mirco » Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:07 am

"An important term for meditative absorption is samadhi. We often translate that as concentration, but that can suggest a certain stiffness. Perhaps unification is a better rendition, as samadhi means to bring together. Deep samadhi isn't at all stiff. It's a process of letting go of other things and coming to a unified experience." -

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Re: Ven. Vimalaramsi on the Abhidhamma & the Visuddhi Magga

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Re: Ven. Vimalaramsi on the Abhidhamma & the Visuddhi Magga

Postby retrofuturist » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:08 am

Greetings,

Well, since the suttas don't even mention this "access concentration", that's a going to be a pretty difficult question to answer...

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