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Quick question about Buddhist Manners

Postby clw_uk » Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:55 pm

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If your walking along and a monk or group of monks walk by what is the proper thing to do? Do you carry on walking on as normal or should you bow?


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Re: Quick question about Buddhist Manners

Postby David N. Snyder » Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:34 pm

Good question. In the U.S. it is rare to see a group of monks; it is usually just one at a time, so then it is easy, you just do a simple bow with anjali. :anjali:

For a group of monks, I'm not sure. Once my son and I were heading down Vulture Peak in India and we came to a large group of Thai monks. We weren't sure what to do, so just started bowing repeatedly. :D Not sure if it was correct, because one of the monks asked (in perfect English) where we were from, reached out his hand to shake hands with me. I told him Las Vegas and his eyes lit up and wanted to hear all about it and how the Dhamma is progressing there, so we had a nice chat.
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Re: Quick question about Buddhist Manners

Postby jcsuperstar » Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:41 pm

i just put my hands together and do a slight bow, nothing dramatic (like you see japanese people do in movies)
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Re: Quick question about Buddhist Manners

Postby Fede » Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:42 pm

I think it best to go everywhere with a troop of cheerleaders complete with ra-ra skirts and pom-poms...
"Gimme a B...Gimme a U....!"

When I visited my local Monastery last Vesak day, the Monastery helpers and guides (laypeople) suggested simply smiling at the monks that day, or else they'd have a whole load of bowing to do back! There were masses of people there that day, so you can understand...
But on ordinary occasions, I was told to ignore them.This isn't considered rude, apparently. On the contrary, it's considerate, because they might be in contemplation or meditation, and it would be a distraction.

Thus was I told.

I guess it might be different elsewhere, so I think maybe going by your gut instinct....
But always respectfully.
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Re: Quick question about Buddhist Manners

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สัพเพ สัตตา สุขีตา โหนตุ

the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat

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Re: Quick question about Buddhist Manners

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สัพเพ สัตตา สุขีตา โหนตุ

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Re: Quick question about Buddhist Manners

Postby Fede » Fri Jun 12, 2009 7:36 pm

"Samsara: The human condition's heartbreaking inability to sustain contentment." Elizabeth Gilbert, 'Eat, Pray, Love'.

Simplify: 17 into 1 WILL go: Mindfulness!

Quieta movere magna merces videbatur. (Sallust, c.86-c.35 BC)
Translation: Just to stir things up seemed a good reward in itself. ;)

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Re: Quick question about Buddhist Manners

Postby gavesako » Fri Jun 12, 2009 7:53 pm

In the UK monasteries, there is a more informal way of dealing with Western Buddhists, so it may happen that some monk will kind of nod his head or somehow acknowledge the greeting of the layperson, but not "bow" (meaning putting head on the ground).

In the Vinaya, there are some people who a bhikkhu should not greet (vandana) in this way: among them are a more junior monk, a layperson. It was just a conventional way of respecting one's social role.
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Re: Quick question about Buddhist Manners

Postby gavesako » Sat Jun 13, 2009 5:53 am

It was more of an issue regarding nuns: Thai monks, when another junior monk bows to them, put their hands in anjali as a gesture of acknowledgement (this is actually not according to Vinaya). But they don't do it for nuns or laypeople. Now in UK, it was agreed that it is OK to acknowledge nuns in this way as well.
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Re: Quick question about Buddhist Manners

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