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Buddhism and politics

Postby Perry » Sat Jun 13, 2009 1:48 am

As someone interested in politics, I have briefly read about the Buddhist stance on politics but not a huge amount.

Is strict Buddhism and strong political opinions compatible? I mean, is Buddhism essentially exclusive to a certain political beliefs or ideal, or is it generally quite open?

As someone who isn't hugely knowledgeable about general Buddhism yet, I personally can't really see how Buddhism and conservatism would ever be compatible, but maybe I'm wrong (not that it ultimately matters, I'm quite liberal actually lol).

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Postby puthujjana » Sat Jun 13, 2009 8:05 am

Ajahn Brahm on Politics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArAsFMr6FlE

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Postby jcsuperstar » Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:52 am

doesnt every buddhist country have capital punishment though?
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Postby jcsuperstar » Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:20 am

i had a talk similar to this once with a friend and i sugested to him that maybe all the people we on the left "hate" really arent evil, maybe they really think theyre doing the right thing... i have a hard time seeing bush as evil, a buffoon yes, but evil probably not. chainey and rush on the other hand... :cookoo:
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Re: Buddhism and politics

Postby adosa » Sat Jun 13, 2009 1:24 pm

IMHO,

Due to ideology, this topic quickly slips into clinging to views and selfing, "I am better than", "I am the same as", "I am worse than" with the great preponderance of the former. My experiences with political dialogue have been that very people are willing to hear all the arguments then make an informed decision. Usually they grasp and cling to their political party lines because they can't stand those on the other side of the aisle. And as such they seem to see themselves as superior thinkers therefore clinging to a view of self.




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The Buddhist Contribution to Good Governance. By Ajahn Brahm.

http://seeingthroughtheinsight.googlepa ... ak2550.pdf
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Re: Buddhism and politics

Postby gavesako » Wed Jun 17, 2009 1:39 pm

How do you interpret the Temiya Jataka (a prince totally refusing to enter the political sphere for fear of making bad kamma)?
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Re: Buddhism and politics

Postby cooran » Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:50 pm

Hello Ven. Gavesako,

Would you say that being elected as a member of Parliament and voting on whether to increase the funding for roads and bridges, or to increase funding for hospitals is on the same level as the action of Temiya-kumaros' father Kasiraja in sentencing four robbers? He sentenced the first to a thousand strokes from whips barbed with thorns, another to be imprisoned in chains, a third to be smitten with a spear, the fourth to be impaled?

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Re: Buddhism and politics

Postby gavesako » Fri Jun 19, 2009 5:53 am

Some scholars interpret this Jataka as presenting the Buddhist view of personal responsibility for all our actions (kamma), even though we may feel justified -- due to our social role -- in punishing criminals and so on, still we have to bear the ethical consequences of that. This would naturally lead one out of the sphere of politics, although involvement in areas which have no negative impact on others should be all right.

See also this text discussing Buddhist political philosophy based on Jatakas and later apocryphal Jataka-tales:

The Kurudhamma: From Ethics to Statecraft
http://www.buddhistethics.org/2/huxley.html
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