YOU CANNOT POST. OUR WEB HOSTING COMPANY DECIDED TO MOVE THE SERVER TO ANOTHER LOCATION. IN THE MEANTIME, YOU CAN VIEW THIS VERSION WHICH DOES NOT ALLOW POSTING AND WILL NOT SAVE ANYTHING YOU DO ONCE THE OTHER SERVER GOES ONLINE.

Pali Term: Sati - Page 3 - Dhamma Wheel

Pali Term: Sati

Explore the ancient language of the Tipitaka and Theravāda commentaries

Moderator: Mahavihara moderator

User avatar
Alex123
Posts: 3476
Joined: Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:32 pm

Re: Pali Term: Sati

Postby Alex123 » Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:02 pm

I ask for forgiveness if this was asked and answered before.

Doesn't consciousness already includes attention to something, awareness of?

So one cant cultivate what already is inherently there. But if by sati we mean remembrance of Dhamma*, then that is something beneficial we can do.

*Example: If one sees attractive person, one should remember "mindfulness of the body" (kāyagatāsati).

If we look the context in which sati occurs, it suggests far more than mere bare awareness.
Dhammānussati, saṅghānussati, sīlānussati, cāgānussati,devatānussati, ānāpānassati,maraṇassati, kāyagatāsati, upasamānussati...
"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

User avatar
tiltbillings
Posts: 23012
Joined: Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:25 am

Re: Pali Term: Sati

Postby tiltbillings » Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:22 pm


User avatar
tiltbillings
Posts: 23012
Joined: Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:25 am

Re: Pali Term: Sati

Postby tiltbillings » Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:38 pm


User avatar
tiltbillings
Posts: 23012
Joined: Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:25 am

Re: Pali Term: Sati

Postby tiltbillings » Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:28 pm


Sylvester
Posts: 2205
Joined: Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:57 am

Re: Pali Term: Sati

Postby Sylvester » Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:58 am


User avatar
Dmytro
Posts: 1448
Joined: Thu Jan 01, 2009 7:24 pm
Location: Kyiv, Ukraine
Contact:

Re: Pali Term: Sati

Postby Dmytro » Wed Sep 12, 2012 6:18 am



User avatar
tiltbillings
Posts: 23012
Joined: Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:25 am

Re: Pali Term: Sati

Postby tiltbillings » Wed Sep 12, 2012 6:31 am


User avatar
Dmytro
Posts: 1448
Joined: Thu Jan 01, 2009 7:24 pm
Location: Kyiv, Ukraine
Contact:

Re: Pali Term: Sati

Postby Dmytro » Wed Sep 12, 2012 6:35 am



User avatar
Dmytro
Posts: 1448
Joined: Thu Jan 01, 2009 7:24 pm
Location: Kyiv, Ukraine
Contact:

Re: Pali Term: Sati

Postby Dmytro » Wed Sep 12, 2012 6:43 am



User avatar
tiltbillings
Posts: 23012
Joined: Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:25 am

Re: Pali Term: Sati

Postby tiltbillings » Wed Sep 12, 2012 6:48 am


User avatar
Dmytro
Posts: 1448
Joined: Thu Jan 01, 2009 7:24 pm
Location: Kyiv, Ukraine
Contact:

Re: Pali Term: Sati

Postby Dmytro » Wed Sep 12, 2012 6:55 am

Last edited by Dmytro on Wed Sep 12, 2012 7:08 am, edited 1 time in total.


User avatar
Dmytro
Posts: 1448
Joined: Thu Jan 01, 2009 7:24 pm
Location: Kyiv, Ukraine
Contact:

Re: Pali Term: Sati

Postby Dmytro » Wed Sep 12, 2012 7:07 am



User avatar
tiltbillings
Posts: 23012
Joined: Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:25 am

Re: Pali Term: Sati

Postby tiltbillings » Wed Sep 12, 2012 7:08 am


User avatar
Dmytro
Posts: 1448
Joined: Thu Jan 01, 2009 7:24 pm
Location: Kyiv, Ukraine
Contact:

Re: Pali Term: Sati

Postby Dmytro » Wed Sep 12, 2012 7:21 am



User avatar
tiltbillings
Posts: 23012
Joined: Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:25 am

Re: Pali Term: Sati

Postby tiltbillings » Wed Sep 12, 2012 7:44 am


User avatar
Spiny Norman
Posts: 4918
Joined: Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:32 am
Location: Spam, wonderful spam

Re: Pali Term: Sati

Postby Spiny Norman » Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:34 am

"My religion is very simple - my religion is ice-cream."
Dairy Lama

Sylvester
Posts: 2205
Joined: Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:57 am

Re: Pali Term: Sati

Postby Sylvester » Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:30 am


User avatar
tiltbillings
Posts: 23012
Joined: Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:25 am

Re: Pali Term: Sati

Postby tiltbillings » Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:40 am


User avatar
Hanzze
Posts: 1906
Joined: Mon Oct 04, 2010 12:47 pm
Location: Cambodia

Re: Pali Term: Sati

Postby Hanzze » Thu Sep 13, 2012 8:20 am

There is no such thing as "seeing" (insight) at the stage of mindful, how could that be?

'There are mental qualities' for expample needs comparison to come to the conclusion of 'There are mental qualities'. Mindfullness without the function of remembering can be nothing but dullness, of cause it could be also concentration but I doubt it, if sati is understood as "being just aware"

I also wonder how somebody would watch his cows, while not constantly remembering them. In daydreaming the cows would get simply lost. The cowherd is simply more relexed as the cows would no more damage the fruits. Still he is watching them to get not lost.

This sutta may point more out to the preconditions for mindfulness.
Just that! *smile*


BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_

User avatar
Dmytro
Posts: 1448
Joined: Thu Jan 01, 2009 7:24 pm
Location: Kyiv, Ukraine
Contact:

Re: Pali Term: Sati

Postby Dmytro » Thu Sep 13, 2012 9:54 am




Return to “Pāli”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests

Google Saffron, Theravada Search Engine