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Robe wearing technics

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Robe wearing technics

Postby Hanzze » Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:37 am

I am not sure, but it seems that there are two general technics to wear the upper robe.

One seems to be used when going outside, turning the short side ends of the fabric into a role and turn it over the left arm over the sholder. The other general used technic which leaves the right sholder free seems to be used when teaching or inside the monastery (away from public).

The secound reqires a belt to close the left body side and hinder the robe lying on the left sholder to fall. Especially the secound technic does not seem very "naturally" to me even it is nice to adjust if one has the nessesary equipments.
The usually use of the "manager - jacket" under the robe might be the reason of usually wearing technics today.

I guess there are serval technics how to prepair the robe. Does somebody have more informations about the wearing of robes?

One more question is about the allowed noose and string on the lower corners of the robe (upper and under robe?). What is it's use? Maybe it indicates a different wearing style.
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Re: Robe wearing technics

Postby DAWN » Thu Sep 13, 2012 3:35 am

Thanks you Hanzze for this topic,

I would like to know it too, but we must to know that wearing a bhikkhu robe without being bhikkhu is no-good for this one who wear it. Bit just for knowing a technical aspect of wearing, seems to me very interessant for those who will try to ordain in the future.
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Re: Robe wearing technics

Postby Hanzze » Thu Sep 13, 2012 3:44 am

Maybe an additional question: what is a Bhikkhu robe and what is just a robe?

Handed back by a preceptor?
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Re: Robe wearing technics

Postby appicchato » Thu Sep 13, 2012 4:42 am

Hi...

Regarding these questions:

There is no belt required (nor allowed) to hold the robe in place when the right shoulder is exposed...but there is a sash used when wearing a sangkhati (another (folded) robe worn over the left shoulder, right shoulder exposed, and attired this way can be worn outside the temple)...it's (the style of wearing) called 'hom dong' (Thai)...

The 'noose and string' is simply a means of keeping the lower parts of the outer robe together...usually (but not necessarily) found on robes of better quality only...and not a requirement...

There is no difference between a 'Bhikkhu robe' and 'just a robe'...one and the same...

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Re: Robe wearing technics

Postby Hanzze » Thu Sep 13, 2012 5:50 am

Thanks a lot for your answers. Does the picture show the different between a sash and a belt (the use is like a belt)?

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"There is no belt required (nor allowed)..." I thought so but wondered in regard of the using (not so much how the piece of support is called)
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Re: Robe wearing technics

Postby DAWN » Thu Sep 13, 2012 6:00 am

Thanks you to your answer Bhante,

I woul like a another question about the robe color, what is the origin of this color?
There is nothing withour a reason, so i am wondering if this color take his origins in the ascetic life in India, when monks and brahmans have no the possibility to wash their robe and body, and staying outdoor all the time, by hot weather, ascetics sweating a lot, and their robe take a marron/orange color ?

Is it the reason? or there is one another?
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Re: Robe wearing technics

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Re: Robe wearing technics

Postby Hanzze » Thu Sep 13, 2012 7:32 am

Just that! *smile*


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Re: Robe wearing technics

Postby Hanzze » Thu Sep 13, 2012 7:52 am

Just that! *smile*


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Re: Robe wearing techniques

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Re: Robe wearing techniques

Postby Hanzze » Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:51 am

Just that! *smile*


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Re: Robe wearing techniques

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Re: Robe wearing technics

Postby Hanzze » Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:48 am

Here as well, as I asked one time, one could remember having seen such things but if a robe has it they usualy cut it away. They could not answer the question of its need and use.
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Re: Robe wearing technics

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Re: Robe wearing technics

Postby Hanzze » Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:36 am

Thanks a lot for the share :rolleye: I guess I will need to read and image it more then one time.
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Re: Robe wearing technics

Postby Hanzze » Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:11 am

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Just came across a picture of traditional wearing techniques of the so called Sampot which is somehow very similar to the wearing of the under robe here (especial pic 2), while the pic 3 is often adopted when Novices are up to work something.
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