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Is it hard to get ordained in the UK monasteries?

Discussion of ordination, the Vinaya and monastic life. How and where to ordain? Bhikkhuni ordination etc.
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Is it hard to get ordained in the UK monasteries?

Postby Maarten » Sat Sep 08, 2012 10:59 am

I am interested in ordaining in the future and I like the Thai forrest tradition. I remember Ajahn Brahm saying he had a waiting list of people who wanted to ordain at his monastery. Is this true for the UK monasteries as well? Will they ordain you easily or is it difficult?
And am I correct in assuming that it is easy to get ordained in Thailand?

Many specific questions, I hope someone here knows more!

Metta! :)

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Re: Is it hard to get ordained in the UK monasteries?

Postby Aloka » Sat Sep 08, 2012 11:17 am

Hi Maarten,

Why not find out directly ? These are the contact details of Amaravati Monastery - which is one of the Thai Theravada Forest tradition monasteries in the UK.



with kind regards

Aloka

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Re: Is it hard to get ordained in the UK monasteries?

Postby James the Giant » Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:11 pm

Then,
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you will put an end to suffering and stress.

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Re: Is it hard to get ordained in the UK monasteries?

Postby gavesako » Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:56 pm

That sounds like a good plan to me, wish you good luck :anjali:
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Re: Is it hard to get ordained in the UK monasteries?

Postby Maarten » Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:13 pm

Thank you, This is very helpful information to me! :namaste:
If it goes wrong for me in the UK I can always get a quick ordination in thailand. :P

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Re: Is it hard to get ordained in the UK monasteries?

Postby Ytrog » Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:25 pm

Hmm, I don't know about the waiting list. Last year I stayed at Cittaviveka with a few other guests. They wanted to become Anagarika's and two of them still are. So my estimation is that the chances are quite high provided you are reasonably healthy in body and mind. I also noticed on the list of residents that some left, so it is indeed not for all.

I hope to give it a try myself someday btw. I have a longer stay this year than last year and when I have some things in order I hope to be able to try it in the next few years. Of course you have to work out some alternatives too.

Good luck with your efforts :anjali:

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Re: Is it hard to get ordained in the UK monasteries?

Postby James the Giant » Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:42 am

Then,
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you will put an end to suffering and stress.

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Re: Is it hard to get ordained in the UK monasteries?

Postby pilgrim » Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:37 am

If you go to the forest sangha website and look through the list of community members, it would appear that some monasteries (like the one New Zealand) is quite empty.

Edit" I'm quite inspired and perhaps a little envious at the number of ppl here intending to ordain. For the growth of the Sasana, we should expand the monasteries or build new ones! Sadhu !

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Re: Is it hard to get ordained in the UK monasteries?

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Re: Is it hard to get ordained in the UK monasteries?

Postby UhBaUnTaUh » Wed Sep 12, 2012 6:21 am

Namo Sangassa


You should select a type of bhikkhu that you want to be.

1. Mahayana Bhikkhu - China

2. New Generation of Theravada Bhikkhu - Mahanikaya of thailand, many nikaya in Burma except Shwegyin Nikaya, all nikaya in cylon except raman nikaya.

3. New Generation of Zen Style Theravada Bhikkhu - Buddhadasa Bhikkhu in Thailand.

4. Old Generation of Zen Style Theravada Bhikkhu - Dhammayutta Nikaya, Wat Pah Nanachat (International Temple) of Cha Bhikkhu (Bhodhin-a Bhikkhu), etc.

5. Tipitaka style Theravada Bhikkhu without Older Bhikkhu Tradition - No specify Nikaya (a new Thailand tradition group that is a derivative of Shwegyin Nikaya )
(Vinaya and Abhidhamma) + P.A.Payutto bhikkhu (Sutta and Pan-n-a) -- don't separate them for a good work.

6. Tipitaka style Theravada Bhikkhu with Older Bhikkhu Tradition - Shwegyin Nikaya, , etc.


In my experience, Sixth is the best patipada and completely like bikkhu in Theravada Tipitaka. Fifth is lower but better than another thai mongs, when compare between Thailand mong.

If I must be coexist with another I will choose from this ranking...

Pa-Auk Sayadaw > Bhikkhu Revata > Leader of Ramanna Nikaya in Cylon > Other group of Shwegyin Nikaya (that don't get money) > Buddhaparisad Raksa Dhammavinaya Network > P.A.Payutto bhikkhu (Sutta and Pan-n-a) + Bhodhin-a Bhikkhu group -- that don't get any money.


I don't select these I always will be upasaka forever...

Other Nikaya of Burma except Shwegyin Nikaya > Other Thailand Dhammayuttanikaya and Another nikaya that get money > 3 > 2 > 1

("Get money" is only a example of the bad habits, don't be live under the vinaya of buddha, that I choose to explain this case.)

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Re: Is it hard to get ordained in the UK monasteries?

Postby James the Giant » Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:46 am

Then,
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you will put an end to suffering and stress.

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Postby UhBaUnTaUh » Sat Sep 15, 2012 2:28 pm

"Zen Style Theravada Bhikkhu"

I meant to Bhikkus who don't wanna hard observe their Sila by Vinaya Pitaka (most of Thai Bikkhus).

PS. I have written about my reason that determined me to think "Bikkhu should hard observe Sila by Vinaya". I thinking about the effect of that article till it made me late to reply. I will post it when it is necessary.
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Re: Is it hard to get ordained in the UK monasteries?

Postby James the Giant » Sat Sep 15, 2012 3:14 pm

Then,
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you will put an end to suffering and stress.

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Re: Is it hard to get ordained in the UK monasteries?

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Re: Is it hard to get ordained in the UK monasteries?

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Re: Is it hard to get ordained in the UK monasteries?

Postby Hanzze » Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:10 am

Just that! *smile*


BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_


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