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Meditation and dreams

General discussion of issues related to Theravada Meditation, e.g. meditation postures, developing a regular sitting practice, skillfully relating to difficulties and hindrances, etc.
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Meditation and dreams

Postby Annicca » Mon Sep 17, 2012 5:21 pm

Hello!

I haven't been practicing meditation for 1 hour daily for a couple of months and since I am having daily meditation, I begin to have dreams that indicate future happenings. They may not be exactly the SAME but they are signs that correspond EXACTLY or almost exactly for what is going to happen. Is this the result of meditation? Since I read that when one meditates, this might stimulate the seeds of karma (or sanskhara) :quote: .... sometimes the outcome is good, sometimes it's a prophecy of something bad that 's gonna happen. Should I do anything to overcome this? If the indications are NOT good, how should I do to revert the outcome? If it's a manifestation of the karma forces in my subconsciousness, is it okay to let it appear? Or am I working too hard on my meditation?


"This, monks, is the origination of form. This, the origination of feeling... perception... fabrications. This, the origination of consciousness." --SN 22.5, PTS: S iii 13, CDB i 863--Samadhi Sutta: Concentration

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Re: Meditation and dreams

Postby DAWN » Mon Sep 17, 2012 6:02 pm

Hello dear Anicca,

Yes is the result of meditation, but not in that 'the dream it self is true', but your concentration on it make it's true.

Technicaly, the mirrow of your mind become calm, there is no more waves that changes a reflect, so the reflection becomes clear and right, your calm mind dont make any modification, so the light of your consciousness takes a right forms, and you remark the exactitude of ressemblances between internal dhammas and external. Dhamma dont make any distinction between external and internal, if there is a consciousness on one or another dhamma, this dhamma take the name-and-form.

All dhammas are like a shadows

So if you want to play with the shadows of your mind, you can do.
To test, try the next time to concentrate your clear mind on one litte detail, dirrect the boat of your mind on it, and the wind of kamma will lead your body to it.
If you dont want to play, dont concentrate your mind on it. If you dont wanna see something, dont enlight it.

Dreams are just a dreams, the moment when our bain reogrganise the memory, this activity is 'detected' by consciousness, images apears, that at the same moment goes in memory too... Dreams are not-self, just reorganisation, harmonysation, optimisation of memory space in your brain, so if you dont wonna to see your dreams become true, dont make it become true.

Metta :namaste:
Sabbe dhamma anatta
We are not concurents...

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Re: Meditation and dreams

Postby Modus.Ponens » Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:07 pm

Yes, it's a result of meditation.

There's a responsability that comes with psychic powers and that is to only do good with them. There's nothing wrong with having them, unless it affects you negatively, or unless it becomes a distraction from the path.
He turns his mind away from those phenomena, and having done so, inclines his mind to the property of deathlessness: 'This is peace, this is exquisite — the resolution of all fabrications; the relinquishment of all acquisitions; the ending of craving; dispassion; cessation; Unbinding.'
(Jhana Sutta - Thanissaro Bhikkhu translation)

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Re: Meditation and dreams

Postby Annicca » Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:07 pm



"This, monks, is the origination of form. This, the origination of feeling... perception... fabrications. This, the origination of consciousness." --SN 22.5, PTS: S iii 13, CDB i 863--Samadhi Sutta: Concentration

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Re: Meditation and dreams

Postby Modus.Ponens » Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:14 pm

Why would you want to eliminate the bad premonitions? They can save your's or someone else's life! But if you're really burdened by that, try create a firm resolution to not experience the bad premonitions. Then say what your resolution is out loud (I read that this helps).
He turns his mind away from those phenomena, and having done so, inclines his mind to the property of deathlessness: 'This is peace, this is exquisite — the resolution of all fabrications; the relinquishment of all acquisitions; the ending of craving; dispassion; cessation; Unbinding.'
(Jhana Sutta - Thanissaro Bhikkhu translation)

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Re: Meditation and dreams

Postby Annicca » Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:19 pm

Well, you wouldn't like to have renal problems, would you? :popcorn:


"This, monks, is the origination of form. This, the origination of feeling... perception... fabrications. This, the origination of consciousness." --SN 22.5, PTS: S iii 13, CDB i 863--Samadhi Sutta: Concentration

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Re: Meditation and dreams

Postby santa100 » Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:47 pm

Maybe adding more Insight meditation instead of just pure Serenity meditation would help. As deeper contemplation on the 3 characteristics of Anicca, Dukkha, and Anattā will allow you to see things as simply processes that arise and pass away with less and less involvement of "I", "mine", and "myself"..

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Re: Meditation and dreams

Postby Annicca » Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:01 pm

Lately, I am doing 1 hour of Goenka's vipassana and 1 hour of anapanasati in the afternoon. Should I stop working on anapanasati? Better suggestions?


"This, monks, is the origination of form. This, the origination of feeling... perception... fabrications. This, the origination of consciousness." --SN 22.5, PTS: S iii 13, CDB i 863--Samadhi Sutta: Concentration

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Re: Meditation and dreams

Postby Hanzze » Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:53 am

Just that! *smile*


BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: Meditation and dreams

Postby Annicca » Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:06 pm

Got your point! May be I'll start focusing on the precepts or reading more sutras and have an eye in my daily activities.

You know, the most difficult thing is to practice in your daily life. You may "enjoy" the whole session of meditation and aware of your mind when it drifts away, however in our daily life, it's very hard to bring your mind back when it's influenced by the outer phenomena. For instance, in sitting meditation, may be when images of a person that I dislike appear, at first my mind would follow that image and negative emotions would appear, like for instance anger, jealousy etc. But as soon as I notice that my mind has drifted away, I would manage to bring it back to the mental object (although with a lot of effort), but finally you can succeed in doing this. However, in our daily life, when an unfavorable circumstance appears, you just react to it and it's very hard to bring your mind back. How can I revert these emotions or thoughts in my daily life? Or should I practice more sitting meditation instead? For instance, if it's anger during the day, I should increase the practice of metta etc.? I find hard to overcome my emotions and reactions.... :shrug:

:focus: I 've found some traces of my daily life do appear in the dreams, although they do NOT appear during meditation. So, may be try to overcome it in my daily activities?


"This, monks, is the origination of form. This, the origination of feeling... perception... fabrications. This, the origination of consciousness." --SN 22.5, PTS: S iii 13, CDB i 863--Samadhi Sutta: Concentration

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Re: Meditation and dreams

Postby Hanzze » Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:08 pm

:thumbsup:
Just that! *smile*


BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_


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