Mawkish1983 wrote:Is it the Apannaka Sutta or the Canki Sutta where the Tathagata teaches that agnsticism is basically the best position to take rather than total acceptance or total rejection? I forget, but I recall it being there somewhere... a list of things in which people usually put faith (from ancient texts to their own experience and everything in between) and in each case there were two outcomes: it might be true and it might not.
I can't remember, but someone here will know
Ben wrote:Have a look at the following:
MN 60: Apannaka Sutta: The Incontrovertible Teaching
MN 74: Dighanakha Sutta: To Dighanakha
"If a person has conviction, his statement, 'This is my conviction,' safeguards the truth. But he doesn't yet come to the definite conclusion that 'Only this is true; anything else is worthless.' To this extent, Bharadvaja, there is the safeguarding of the truth. To this extent one safeguards the truth. I describe this as the safeguarding of the truth. But it is not yet an awakening to the truth.
[and so on for ".., likes something... holds an unbroken tradition... has something reasoned through analogy... has something he agrees to, having pondered views,...
mikenz66 wrote:I don't think it's agnosticism that is being advocated
Nibbida wrote:Tangential the the thread on accepting rebirth, I wonder about belief in other aspects of the Pali Canon.
I understand that rejecting rebirth is outright contrary to the Pali Canon because it's inconsistent with the fundamental principles. That much is evident.
But what about belief in the existence of other aspects such as devas and supernatural powers (e.g. clairaudience, etc.), Would an agnostic or outright skeptical attitude toward these elements be contrary to Buddhist practice or a hindrance to development? My guess is not necessarily since they are not essential to the Eightfold Path, that they are not essential to the causes and cessation of suffering. But I'm not certain if this is the Theravadin view.
Can anyone say with greater certainty?
Nibbida wrote:But what about belief in the existence of other aspects such as devas and supernatural powers?
Peter wrote:Nibbida wrote:But what about belief in the existence of other aspects such as devas and supernatural powers?
Devas are a part of right view in the same way rebirth is.
Supernatural powers does not appear to be.
Nibbida wrote:I didn't know if it made any difference or not what one believed about devas, since Theravada Buddhism is not a devotional religion (i.e. doesn't pray to devas to deliver us from suffering).
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