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literal translation of short verse from mahaparinibbna sutta

Postby anjali » Sat Sep 15, 2012 5:54 pm

Hello,

I was wondering if someone who knows pali can help me with a word-for-word translation of a short verse from the Mahaparinibbana sutta:
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You can find the verse here: , #222. To help get the ball rolling, here is the verse with one word per line:

Asallīnena--?
cittena--citta?--heart/mind
vedanaṃ--vedana--feeling/sensation(pleasant unpleasant/neutral)
ajjhavāsayi--?
Pajjotasseva--?
nibbānaṃ--nirvana--unbinding/release/liberation
vimokkho--?
cetaso--?
ahū--?

The motivation for this is that I've found three different translations (Thanissaro, Sister Vajira & Francis Story, and Rhys Davids) that were different enough that I want to go back to the original Pali and do a more in-depth analysis. I'm guessing at some of the words. No clue on the others. Any help would be appreciated in translating these words!

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Re: literal translation of short verse from mahaparinibbna sutta

Postby Kare » Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:44 pm

Instead of trying to give you a solution to your problem, I would like to congratulate you for seeing the problem!

This is just the kind of problem that made me start studying Pali many years ago. And once I got started, I found the studying and reading of Pali so fascinating and absorbing that I just couldn't stop - and I am still studying, reading and translating Pali texts.

So do not look to others for a solution. Start learning Pali, and you will find the solution for yourself.

Best wishes! :anjali:
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Re: literal translation of short verse from mahaparinibbna sutta

Postby Hanzze » Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:17 am

Just that! *smile*


BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: literal translation of short verse from mahaparinibbna sutta

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Re: literal translation of short verse from mahaparinibbna sutta

Postby Hanzze » Mon Sep 17, 2012 2:11 am

Great effort! Now, does it feel differnt?
Just that! *smile*


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Re: literal translation of short verse from mahaparinibbna sutta

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Re: literal translation of short verse from mahaparinibbna sutta

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Re: literal translation of short verse from mahaparinibbna sutta

Postby UhBaUnTaUh » Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:48 am

I'm sorry that I forgot to translate "Asallīnena cittena".

However, I have edited that post.
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Re: literal translation of short verse from mahaparinibbna sutta

Postby Hanzze » Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:38 am

Just that! *smile*


BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: literal translation of short verse from mahaparinibbna sutta

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Re: literal translation of short verse from mahaparinibbna sutta

Postby Hanzze » Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:07 pm

So there is now satisfaction and no more controversy? As you did it for satisfaction.
Just that! *smile*


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Re: literal translation of short verse from mahaparinibbna sutta

Postby Hanzze » Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:50 am

Great :smile: and today?
Just that! *smile*


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