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Does a magga-cetasika realy cause vedana, or are they somehow side conditions which cause the turning on? And if a magga-cetasika realy condition vedana which kind and is that free of dukkha?theY wrote:Namatthu Ratanattayassa
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First is tīraṇapariññā-kicca. Second is pahāna-kicca. Third is sacchikiriyā-kicca. The last is bhāvanā-kicca.
All khandha, included 8 maggas are anicca, dukkha, and anatta that have tilakkhaṇa --aniccalakkhaṇa, dukkhalakkhaṇa, and anattalakkhaṇa.
However, the Buddha had taught tilakkhana to make us see dukkha-ariyasacca by doing tīraṇapariñākicca--vipassana meditation or you can call magga, that we must contemplation--observe, tilakkhana of all kandha until they all become anicca, dukkha, and anatta in your attitude (in sutta aphorism is "He regards whatever phenomena as inconstant, stressful,...,not-self"--AN 4.124 PTS: A ii 128).
But pubbbhāgamagga, that name lokiya-maggas, hadn't taught for that kicca. They have being to be bhāvanā-kicca. Till they couldn't usable to eradicate kilesa, then we could do pahana-kicca to them.
Another case, if maggas or any saṅkhāra can't attached by any kilesa, they will have tilaksana, accept dukkalakkhaṇa, but they are not dukkha-ariyasacca. In this case, maggas refer to lokuttara-magga.
End case, magga-cetasikas are not dukkha-vedanā. However, dukkha-vedanā can arise with magga-cetasika in magga-citta (maggacittuppāda).
Hanzze wrote:Does a magga-cetasika realy cause vedana, or are they somehow side conditions which cause the turning on? And if a magga-cetasika realy condition vedana which kind and is that free of dukkha?
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