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Is there something like a Vinaya network?

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Is there something like a Vinaya network?

Postby Hanzze » Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:14 pm

Thinking on the advices and the protection of the patimokkha issues from the Buddha, I often asked my self if there is any such network where Bhikkhus can exchange issues and questions in regard of Vinaya. Maybe even a palce where Novices can request.

Traditional it would be the preceptor or the fellow monks but I guess there are many situations where a Bhikkhu or a Novice would not have good success to good advices.

To talk such things public might look as "where is the problem", but actually many things are very sensible and can cause much troubles as well. I guess such a network could give much ideas and inspirations.

Are there such "systems"?
Would it be possible to make them somehow open to people who are not ordinated now, but serious interested?
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Re: Is there something like a Vinaya network?

Postby daverupa » Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:40 pm

So, is it possible to use this forum as such a system for Vinaya discussions? There are a number of monastic members, and a slew of others who are also educated about the material.

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Re: Is there something like a Vinaya network?

Postby Hanzze » Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:45 pm

Daverupa,

No, I don't think that it is the best situation. To a certain point yes, but a little deeper no. Also a mix of layman and Bhikkhus is not the best, even if there is great good intention on both parths as the views are very different as well as the rules to stay secure.

Maybe if there is a modified or special under-forum, which is in somehow not public and also high discret.
Just that! *smile*


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Re: Is there something like a Vinaya network?

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Re: Is there something like a Vinaya network?

Postby DAWN » Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:55 pm

If my memory is good, once someone told me that Bhikkhus cant talk about Vinaya with lay peoples.
I dont know if its true.
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Re: Is there something like a Vinaya network?

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Re: Is there something like a Vinaya network?

Postby Cittasanto » Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:59 pm



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Is there something like a Vinaya network?

Postby Hanzze » Wed Sep 26, 2012 1:28 am

Just that! *smile*


BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: Is there something like a Vinaya network?

Postby Cittasanto » Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:12 am



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Is there something like a Vinaya network?

Postby Hanzze » Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:26 am

Just that! *smile*


BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: Is there something like a Vinaya network?

Postby DAWN » Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:52 am

Thanks you devarupa and Cittasanto :namaste:
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Re: Is there something like a Vinaya network?

Postby Hanzze » Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:12 am

Just that! *smile*


BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: Is there something like a Vinaya network?

Postby Cittasanto » Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:51 pm



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Is there something like a Vinaya network?

Postby Cittasanto » Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:01 pm



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Is there something like a Vinaya network?

Postby Hanzze » Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:43 am

I see, so maybe it's the best to have just a good and broad discussion between laypeople and non-monasterian.

Yes there is the ethical conduct section, but it's maybe a little to intensive to bring to much Vinaya issues into it. The Ordination section is somehow a better place for "border beings"

Maybe there is even beside it a possibility to give Bhikkhus and houseless people a layman supported possibility for a good and most possible secure exchange. A kind of online Vihara.
Just that! *smile*


BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: Is there something like a Vinaya network?

Postby Cittasanto » Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:28 am



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Is there something like a Vinaya network?

Postby Hanzze » Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:50 am

I did not thought that much about regulations, but more about giving possibilities (inspire to give possibilities). Everybody is somehow free to chose, dependent on the conditions which needs to be worked out at least for one self.
Just that! *smile*


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Re: Is there something like a Vinaya network?

Postby theY » Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:30 am

Above message maybe out of date. Latest update will be in massage's link.
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