David N. Snyder wrote:Similar to the list of celebrity Buddhists, some of these on the list are there on flimsy evidence, both the famous and infamous.
The Dalai Lama eats meat occasionally.
There is about an equal amount of evidence that Hitler was a vegetarian as there is for him not being a vegetarian (his chef reported that he loved to eat meat, for example and other reports indicate that he dabbled with healthy eating for longevity purposes).
Mike Tyson (former heavy weight champion in Boxing and Las Vegas resident) is definitely a vegan. (He chewed off part of on an opponent's ear, but didn't swallow.)
yawares wrote:What do you think?
corrine wrote:Having been a healthy vegetarian for decades, I can see so many positives in the vegetarian lifestyle - health, environmental, financial etc. - and I cannot see any positives to eating other sentient beings. Just because some vegetarians are basically evil, does not reflect on the lifestyle. Remember, many vegetarians adhere to the lifestyle not out of compassion toward other living creatures, but because they will benefit in some way.
What is the downside? How can the killing and eating of our fellow creatures ever be a good thing?
I, personally, have benefited in so many ways from abstaining from eating meat, poultry, fish etc. I am grateful that I was able to observe a slaughter house when I was young and impressionable. It changed my life for the better.
Hanzze wrote:It would be good to have a lots of plants and trees in the future wouldn't it?
David N. Snyder wrote:David N. Snyder wrote:Diet of Buddha
97% vegetarian and about 72% vegan (I just counted the vegan references).
And based on the above, I think it is a win-win for both sides in the veg. debates. The vegetarians can say that the Buddha was 97% or almost completely vegetarian. And the omnivores can say that the fact that he ate some meat, any meat, shows that he did not ban it, nor is there the direct intention in regard to killing.
Hanzze wrote:Those which are nead If I tell you about good fruits, you maybe would like to have them and they would cut more forest, till the lands make it to places without the possibility for any rebrith to get some benefit from it.
What fruits are growing next to you in your neigborhood?
Hanzze wrote:Does anybody know how old "buddhist" the vegetarian boom is?
Ashoka's Edicts wrote:Those nanny goats, ewes and sows which are with young or giving milk to their young are protected, and so are young ones less than six months old. Cocks are not to be caponized, husks hiding living beings are not to be burnt and forests are not to be burnt either without reason or to kill creatures. One animal is not to be fed to another. On the three Caturmasis, the three days of Tisa and during the fourteenth and fifteenth of the Uposatha, fish are protected and not to be sold.
Formerly, in the kitchen of Beloved-of-the-Gods, King Piyadasi, hundreds of thousands of animals were killed every day to make curry. But now with the writing of this Dhamma edict only three creatures, two peacocks and a deer are killed, and the deer not always. And in time, not even these three creatures will be killed.
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/auth ... el386.html
Ron-The-Elder wrote:I think that I could have made Buddha into a vegan if I had introduced him to a Thai dish I have only found in Rochester, New York called : "Evil Prince in The Jungle". It is made with Thai egg plant, bean sprouts, rice noodles, chilly peppers, garlic, fresh basil, and minced onions. I don't believe onions and garlic were allowed, though. "Excellent Dish!" I don't really know why.
Spiny O'Norman wrote:
So if as Buddhists we choose to buy meat we are expecting somebody else to engage in wrong livelihood.
Hmmm If I pay a hired assassin (slaughterman) to kill my wife in an abattoir, do I avoid culpability for her death?
A clear conscience and all that insurance money
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