Cittasanto wrote:Hanzze wrote:Actually I think its a gratidute problem that is easy caused by thinking that the conditions are always the same and can waste a blessed situation, so I think its very worthy to go on here.
not in the slightest.
because it is not something different at any time.
Such a thought might be the reason why one is still here. All conditions are changing permanently, that is something fundamental in regard of Buddhas insight.
If so, you could suddenly free your self. Now
if you are now in the situation/have the condition of not:
i) paccantaro--a border district where the Buddha
Sasana does not flourish;
ii) arupino--the four Brahma planes of
iii) vitalingo--persons with congenital
defects such as idiocy, etc.
iv) asannasatta--a brahma plane of the
form-sphere of non-consciousness.'
v) micchaditthi--birth among
people holding wrong views,
vi) peta--the peta world;
vii) tiracchana-the animal world, and
amoung the many other conditions (paccaya)
Cittasanto wrote:So why you like to reject that you/we/somebody else have other condition today as 2500 year ago?
that is what this thread is about, and nothing has been shown to sugest that on the level of the teachings and practice is actually different which isn't accounted for at any time.
so off topic is the continued insistance without evidence. please stop posting circular arguments insisting the same thing which started on page one.
If I would say in provucation, you are still not awaken (as there are not the condition for it since now), would that be an argument that conditions are changeable? I diagree with your argumentation, there is nothing which is the same like 2500 years ago, exept the law of cause and effect and its possibility to change the conditions in a way to escape from them. But these condition to escape are always different sometime the conditions make it even impossible for a good while.
Maybe the problem is that you give conditions a positve or negative value. Condition is just condition and this is always caused. When we think on the similies that Buddha had quoted, how rare even a birth as human is one needs to think about the condition to even meat the good teachings and the needed conditions to even understand them.