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Buddhist layman confession and re-taking of precepts

Buddhist ethical conduct including the Five Precepts (Pañcasikkhāpada), and Eightfold Ethical Conduct (Aṭṭhasīla).
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Buddhist layman confession and re-taking of precepts

Postby Hanzze » Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:07 pm

Just that! *smile*


BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Postby Cittasanto » Mon Oct 01, 2012 10:01 pm



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Buddhist layman confession and re-taking of precepts

Postby Hanzze » Tue Oct 02, 2012 4:43 am

Just that! *smile*


BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: Buddhist layman confession and re-taking of precepts

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He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Buddhist layman confession and re-taking of precepts

Postby Hanzze » Tue Oct 02, 2012 7:53 am

Just that! *smile*


BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: Buddhist layman confession and re-taking of precepts

Postby Hanzze » Tue Oct 02, 2012 8:23 am

Just that! *smile*


BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: Buddhist layman confession and re-taking of precepts

Postby Hanzze » Tue Oct 02, 2012 9:23 am

Just that! *smile*


BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: Buddhist layman confession and re-taking of precepts

Postby Hanzze » Tue Oct 02, 2012 9:45 am

That sounds quite more serious Mike. Thanks for the share. But it is also somehow strange, why only in reagrad to the Sangha, offens confession in regard to the Sangha, confession of just offenses in direction of Sangha? That is simply internal confession to keep the peace of the Sangha, so not in regard of virtue, but more to keep the Sangha united and honored. Good for your Sangha group if you direct your mind to it. But mostly laypeople do not just seek refuge in the Sangha and live exclusivly with the Sangha.

They are like that, when ever I see such traditonal developments, they are manly useless when you know what they are talking about. People mostly receited it in Pali even not knowing the meaning.

I guess it would be much more from use for others, if you tell how you use it and where you direct your mind so that others can addopt good ways. What ever ritual they like to do while mentaly doning wholesome deeds.
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Just that! *smile*


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Re: Buddhist layman confession and re-taking of precepts

Postby Hanzze » Tue Oct 02, 2012 9:52 am

Just that! *smile*


BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: Buddhist layman confession and re-taking of precepts

Postby mikenz66 » Tue Oct 02, 2012 10:01 am

These things are useful because they are a reminder to continue to focus on the Dhamma.

:anjali:
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Re: Buddhist layman confession and re-taking of precepts

Postby Hanzze » Tue Oct 02, 2012 10:08 am

Yes Mike as told before: "They are, they are. No offense, but just not in regard of the topic and not as a prerequisite to develope virtue for further attainmaints. If they are used as a kind of Bhavana, just be careful that they to not develope wrong views" What Dhamma will you like to focus on, it is Adhamma or a wrong directed mind at least.

Therfore its good if you explain it in detail. Sangha, Sangha, what does it mean. "My dear friends, please forgive me if I have done something wrong even if I have not seen it" and what about the others and what about the use in further development.

I am sure your thoughts are different.
Just that! *smile*


BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: Buddhist layman confession and re-taking of precepts

Postby Cittasanto » Tue Oct 02, 2012 7:47 pm



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Buddhist layman confession and re-taking of precepts

Postby Cittasanto » Tue Oct 02, 2012 7:54 pm



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.


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