Dhamma: Idea or Ideology?

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Dhamma: Idea or Ideology?

Postby gavesako » Tue Jun 16, 2009 9:32 am

Part 1 of the video series is here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qs9WDhSV8P8

Comments and further ideas are welcome. :idea:
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Re: Dhamma: Idea or Ideology?

Postby Cittasanto » Tue Jun 16, 2009 12:54 pm

Nice Video Bhante.
I think it is all about context, I don't think it can always be translated into one word or phrase, and I do think some words may at times be a, or give a wrong impression in the wrong context.
I suppose if Ideology was used to translate dhamma, it would have to be in specific circumstances due to the negative conotations due to the use of the word with certain policical systems which have been used or described in a negative manner, and with the wide group of ideas it can be applied to.

Idea as an alternative I think gives just as many problems, although different ones from, Is Dhamma an idea of truth, the teaching of an idea of what is true, an expression of truth in a certain way to make it palitable and easily understood? or all of these? none of these? or both? I think a cart may be useful in deciding!

Dhamma to me is Dhamma, an idea of what is and an ideology of finding out what is, then an idea of how best to share it.
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Re: Dhamma: Idea or Ideology?

Postby gavesako » Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:56 am

Here are parts 2, 3, and 4:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01XbXR5Qxfg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gucEhIds7NY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1LJaBEx9HE

Dealing with Vibhajjavada, Acinnakappika, Second and Third Council, Upajjhaya-Acariya etc.
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Re: Dhamma: Idea or Ideology?

Postby Cittasanto » Fri Jun 19, 2009 1:25 am

I caught the second & 3rd later the day I posted my last responce I will try to catch the fouth tomorrow
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He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
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