vinasp wrote: Who agrees with this? Who does not agree?
It's a discussion over temporal components of paticcasamuppada; but these are beside the point, a distracting tangent, the pursuit of a scholastic footnote.
The relationship between tanha, upadana, and dukkha is:
tanha --> upadana --> ...dukkha
If I think about my death, which is to say 'my end', the end of 'my things', this has as its cause neither an objective birth nor a speculative previous existence, but the subjective sense that I was born, that 'I began'. This is rooted in the subjective sense that 'I am', and this comes from clinging, which comes from craving, which ultimately comes from ignorance.
Time doesn't need to get brought up at all.