My practice - please correct me on how you think is better

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My practice - please correct me on how you think is better

Postby purple planet » Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:48 pm

I am very confused right now about my practice so this is what i do (except from keeping the precepts) :

my back hurts so i do mainly walking meditation and noting in daily life

I think i follow ven.yuttadhammo way of meditating by labeling everything - and because i dont understand how to label when doing some actions like listening i will focus on what i do at the time with no labeling

Now I am trying to figure out a way to be more confident i am doing this "correctly" - that im doing things right

If i will label and allways try to note more and more steps than i cant go wrong ? like if i will try to note more and more "moments" of life and not them - "label" them then i am moving in the right way ?
Please send merit to my dog named Mika who has passed away - thanks in advance

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Re: My practice - please correct me on how you think is better

Postby bodom » Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:25 pm

Whether practicing under the guidance of a teacher or not, practicing this technique/method or that, there is only one sure fire way to know whether or not you are practicing the Dhamma correctly: there is the lessening and or complete removal of all suffering and stress from your life.

:anjali:
To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


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Re: My practice - please correct me on how you think is better

Postby Cittasanto » Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:56 pm

Apart from Bodoms excelent advise!
if you are trying to follow Ven Yuttadhammos Teachings it would be ideal to try to speak with him.
he is quite active online, and am sure easily contactable.
if you are not sure how to contact him he is giving a live broadcast tomorrow which I believe is a Q&A session so you could ask a question then.

but this is a path of mistakes, and if we were perfect straight away we would not need guidance.


He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Postby purple planet » Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:53 pm

Please send merit to my dog named Mika who has passed away - thanks in advance

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Postby reflection » Sat Oct 13, 2012 9:06 pm

When you listen, you listen. If you label things while listening, you aren't listening anymore. It's the same with all other labeling, not to say it's not useful, but it's another thing from being fully mindful. I personally don't see the use of labelling everything all day. It can be a tool probably for those who have a hard time concentrating or getting the mind empty, but certainly it is not the goal to be able to label everything.

So if you can label more and more doesn't mean you are moving in the right direction. You are going in the right direction if you are more peaceful, happy and harmless in general. Labeling can be a tool useful for some, but it's just a technique. Use it wisely, so determine if it works for you. But again, you shouldn't have to do it all the time. When meditating you can get to very easeful places where there is nothing to label anyway; and as soon as you do you disturb the peace. For that reason I personally don't note at all - I don't find it useful.

So in short, how effective a particular method is and how well you are applying it can be seen from the resulting peace. If you want to know what to do, that's the thing to check.

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Postby retrofuturist » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:47 pm

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

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Re: My practice - please correct me on how you think is better

Postby pegembara » Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:34 am

And what is right speech? Abstaining from lying, from divisive speech, from abusive speech, & from idle chatter: This is called right speech.

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Re: My practice - please correct me on how you think is better

Postby Patr » Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:39 pm

There are maore than one meditation method, just as there are many temperaments within the human race. If this doesnt suit you, then try a different one. I myself have tried a few before accepting a method that feels right.

On the other hand, remember the story about the guitar strings, drawn too tight or too lose will not give a good result.

Take the middle path, let go if it doesnt feel right, think you're trying too hard. Just be mindfull, without noting/labelling everything. If your mind wanders, just observe, pull it back. This will happen many many times, eventually it will settle for extended periods. Even experienced meditators sometimes have difficulty settling their mind, we all have our off days, then just pack up and do it another time.

Seriously, take it easy, thats the middle path, not too tight, not too slack.

Hope this helps.

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Re: My practice - please correct me on how you think is better

Postby purple planet » Sat Oct 27, 2012 6:17 pm

ok now what i do at the moment is live at my parents - so i try to live like in a monastry so i take the 8 precepts - no food after lunch and stoped killing mosquitoes -

as far as i understand until this point - is the goal is to get rid of the kilesas ? - and everything comes from this - all the practice is aimed at this ? being mindful is just a tool to get rid of the kilesas ? -
Please send merit to my dog named Mika who has passed away - thanks in advance


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