parinibbana - yes or no?

[clw_uk]

As far i can make out parinibbana is nibbana after death or the final nibbana. Does this accord with the buddhas teachings or not? I understood nibbana that can be achieved here and now to be it, there is no beyond it.

[Jechbi]

Hello clw,

Take a look at this thread.

[clw_uk]

Thanks jechbi, didnt see that topic

[Element]

The suttas mention both Nibbana here & now and Parinibbana, which is the Buddha's death.

The suttas primarily teach about Nibbana here & now, which is defined as the cessation of greed, hatred & delusion.

For one opinion on Nibbana, you can google the web for 'Nibbana for Everyone' by Bhikkhu Buddhadasa.

[Jason]

clw_uk,

As far i can make out parinibbana is nibbana after death or the final nibbana. Does this accord with the buddhas teachings or not? I understood nibbana that can be achieved here and now to be it, there is no beyond it.

Accoring to Nyanatiloka's Manual of Buddhist Terms and Doctrines, parinibbana, literally "full Nibbana," is "a synonym for Nibbana; this term, therefore, does not refer exclusively to the extinction of the 5 groups of existence (khandha) at the death of the Holy One, though often applied to it."

Jason