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Homeopathic medicine kills people.

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The best things in life aren't things.


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The best things in life aren't things.


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In the words of 'goldie lookin chain': "Guns don't kill people, rappers do"

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Postby Jechbi » Sun Jun 21, 2009 4:52 pm

That's why some people buy .

In all fairness, I don't think we can say homeopathic medicine kills people. Some folks who believe in it and receive care from homeopathic health practitioners probably experience some benefit. We can say it's just a placebo effect, but the same could be said of conventional medicine in some cases. Just ask your doctor if you don't believe me.

If we want to say that homeopathic medicine kills people, then in all fairness we have to say that conventional medicine kills people, too.

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Postby BubbaBuddhist » Sun Jun 21, 2009 6:26 pm

Scientific studies have shown you can't rely on scientific studies. True. Look it up.

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Postby Cittasanto » Sun Jun 21, 2009 9:25 pm



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Postby sparrowhawk » Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:58 am

Some people seem to have short memory when it is of their convenience...

FDA analysts estimated that Vioxx caused between 88,000 and 139,000 heart attacks, 30 to 40 percent of which were probably fatal, in the five years the drug was on the market.

We must be skeptic, not only of homeopathy, but of conventional medicine itself.
Caveat emptor, always.

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Postby BubbaBuddhist » Mon Jun 22, 2009 4:07 am

Was going to make a comment about developing a sense of humor; but decided such would be futile because everyone is having such a good time taking themselves so seriously. <insert smiley of your choice>

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Re: Homeopathic medicine kills people.

Postby Fede » Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:19 am

I have been using homoeopathic treatments for the past thirty years and will continue to do so because I know they are effective.
If the British National Health System recognises homoeopathy as a legitimate form of treatment, I don't see why we shouldn't be a bit more open-minded about it....

http://www.trusthomeopathy.org/getting_ ... n_the_nhs/

To dismiss is as magic, hocus-pocus and something purely utilised as a placebo, shows a marked degree of arrogance and ignorance.
It also at a single stroke serves to undervalue and ridicule the thousands of people who have made it their business to work in homoeopathy, and it presupposes those who have used remedies to be at best, deluded and at worst, liars.
Which is not the way I would expect people here to respond....

If I may say so.

What a good thing we do not approach other 'truths' in such a stonewalling :quote: manner..... :roll:
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Re: Homeopathic medicine kills people.

Postby Jechbi » Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:40 pm

But there are solid reasons for skeptical doubt about some of the ideas behind mainstream homeopathy. For example, how can water have "memory"?

I think the concept of treating likes with likes has some basis. Isn't that how allergy shots work, by slowly helping the body to get used to the allergens? But in homeopathy, the dosages are so minute (even non-existent) that it's not clear to me how they could have any effect on the body, short of magic.

Also, if a person is healed, it doesn't make sense to say the placebo effect "wears off." Where did the six-week figure come from?

And I agree we should be open minded, but really, I don't think dismissing homeopathy is a case of arrogance or closed-mindedness. Saying that homeopathy skeptics are closed-minded and arrogant does nothing at all to support the argument in favor of homoepathy.

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Re: Homeopathic medicine kills people.

Postby nathan » Tue Jun 23, 2009 5:49 am

I'd just like to point out that there isn't a single drug in the world that can produce 100% consistent results. That is the benchmark for 'science', 100% replicability. So, to put it simply, to say that drug treatments are science is bullsh_t, it's witchcraft just as surely as homeopathy is, if, in fact, that is what it is, which seems doubtful. Don't witches fly around on brooms or something? They're aviation enthusiasts then, right? Or so we are told, according to leading sources. Having seen innumerable saturday morning cartoons on the subject and so forth, I feel qualified to say, yes, surely they must be aviation enthusiasts.

There, that should settle things once and for all.

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