Individual wrote:What I'm getting at here is voluntary S&M: Would this be regarded as "unwholesome"? Cittas associated with sadism or masochism are unwholesome. Would this still apply, though, in voluntary activities like this?
Fede wrote:"YourTV just 'happened' to flip...?"
Providing both members are ready, willing, able and enjoying it voluntarily, without coercion or force - it' does not contravene the third precept.
But I'd be hard pushed to believe many Buddhists would indulge.
there again, each to his own.....
From Access to Insight...
Misconduct is regard to sense pleasures is formally defined as "the volition with sexual intent occurring through the bodily door, causing transgression with an illicit partner".8 The primary question this definition elicits is: who is to qualify as an illicit partner? For men, the text lists twenty types of women who are illicit partners. These can be grouped into three categories: (1) a woman who is under the protection of elders or other authorities charged with her care, e.g., a girl being cared for by parents, by an older brother or sister, by other relatives, or by the family as a whole; (2) a woman who is prohibited by convention, that is, close relatives forbidden under family tradition, nuns and other women vowed to observe celibacy as a spiritual discipline, and those forbidden as partners under the law of the land; and (3) a woman who is married or engaged to another man, even one bound to another man only by a temporary agreement. In the case of women, for those who are married any man other than a husband is an illicit partner. For all women a man forbidden by tradition or under religious rules is prohibited as a partner. For both men and women any violent, forced, or coercive union, whether by physical compulsion or psychological pressure, can be regarded as a transgression of the precept even when the partner is not otherwise illicit. But a man or woman who is widowed or divorced can freely remarry according to choice.
Chris wrote:Hello Individual,
Kamma does not operate like civil law ... i.e. many things are legally O.K. between consenting adults. It is set in motion by cetana (intention)...
...Sado-masochistic thoughts and behaviour most certainly strengthens latent tendencies and adds to unwholesome kammic accumulations.