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What is the experience of a kalapa?
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What is the experience of a kalapa?
by fivebells » Sun Oct 28, 2012 7:10 pm
I'm going on a Goenka retreat, and I have noticed that Goenka talks a lot about kalapas, which he equates with subatomic particles. I would like to know, on an experiential/phenomenological level, what experience a kalapa refers to.
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Re: What is the experience of a kalapa?
by cooran » Sun Oct 28, 2012 7:13 pm
Hello fivebells,
A previous thread on this topic may be of interest:
viewtopic.php?f=19&t=6610
with metta
Chris
A previous thread on this topic may be of interest:
viewtopic.php?f=19&t=6610
with metta
Chris
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Re: What is the experience of a kalapa?
by Bhikkhu Pesala » Sun Oct 28, 2012 7:20 pm
fivebells wrote:I would like to know, on an experiential/phenomenological level, what experience a kalapa refers to.
If a kalapa is something that can be experienced on an experiential level, then what could anyone possible say that could enable you to experience it? Any pre-conceptions regarding what might be experienced would be entirely counter-productive. Just observe, and pay carefully attention to whatever phenomena you happen to notice to observe them as they really are.
Its more important to know and understand kilesas than it is to understand kalapas.
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Re: What is the experience of a kalapa?
by fivebells » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:15 am
Thanks to both of you.
Bhikku Pesala implies that understanding of kalapas is not necessary to the practice. That is what I was hoping. If I'm wrong about that, I would be grateful for any corrections.
Bhikku Pesala implies that understanding of kalapas is not necessary to the practice. That is what I was hoping. If I'm wrong about that, I would be grateful for any corrections.
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Re: What is the experience of a kalapa?
by Gena1480 » Mon Oct 29, 2012 1:20 am
namita that has no footing
i saw a lightning that could not land a footing
thats why its moving all the time
moving because it cant land
no begging because it can't land
lightning that can not land at a point
always move
someone tell me otherwise
lightning namita
i saw a lightning that could not land a footing
thats why its moving all the time
moving because it cant land
no begging because it can't land
lightning that can not land at a point
always move
someone tell me otherwise
lightning namita
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Re: What is the experience of a kalapa?
by retrofuturist » Mon Oct 29, 2012 1:23 am
Greetings,
It is part of the mode of exposition in Goenka practice, but you can just stick to vedana (feeling/sensation) without interpreting the vedana as such.
Metta,
Retro.
fivebells wrote:Bhikku Pesala implies that understanding of kalapas is not necessary to the practice. That is what I was hoping. If I'm wrong about that, I would be grateful for any corrections.
It is part of the mode of exposition in Goenka practice, but you can just stick to vedana (feeling/sensation) without interpreting the vedana as such.
Metta,
Retro.
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Whatever various forms of unease there are in the world, They originate founded in encumbering accumulation. (Pārāyanavagga)
'We should not congratulate someone on the success of their misdeeds, but on the contrary should endeavour to advise him or her to lead a more skilful and wholesome life. If such advice is ignored then we can only give up and let go' - Phra Panyapatipo
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Re: What is the experience of a kalapa?
by theY » Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:48 pm
Read this, a origin source of kalāpa meditation.
If your indriyas are strength, kalāpa meditation isn't important.
Else, visuddhimagga, and vimuttimagga have taught that meditation for develop first ñāṇa, nāmarūpaparicchedañāṇa.
So, if your meditation don't take a higher state, even though you develop it hard, you need to develop jhāna and kalapa meditation.
If your indriyas are strength, kalāpa meditation isn't important.
Else, visuddhimagga, and vimuttimagga have taught that meditation for develop first ñāṇa, nāmarūpaparicchedañāṇa.
So, if your meditation don't take a higher state, even though you develop it hard, you need to develop jhāna and kalapa meditation.
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