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Very good guideline to awakening

Postby xtracorrupt » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:01 am

Whenever you do something that you think the buddha would disapprove , ask yourself why would the buddha disapprove of this?

This is good because when you do this you take into consideration ill will and you also take into consideration possible causes for so.
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Re: Very good guideline to awakening

Postby James the Giant » Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:48 am

So, that's WWBD?
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Re: Very good guideline to awakening

Postby xtracorrupt » Mon Oct 29, 2012 1:11 pm

James the Giant wrote:So, that's WWBD?


I don't know, can u please say the full version.
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Re: Very good guideline to awakening

Postby daverupa » Mon Oct 29, 2012 1:58 pm

What Would Batman Do, maybe.

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    "And how is it, bhikkhus, that by protecting others one protects oneself? By patience, harmlessness, goodwill, and sympathy. It is in such a way that by protecting others one protects oneself.
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Re: Very good guideline to awakening

Postby m0rl0ck » Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:55 pm

xtracorrupt wrote:Whenever you do something that you think the buddha would disapprove , ask yourself why would the buddha disapprove of this?

This is good because when you do this you take into consideration ill will and you also take into consideration possible causes for so.


The buddha is just some guy who has been dead for over 2 thousand years, why the hell should i care what he thinks?
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Re: Very good guideline to awakening

Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:10 pm

m0rl0ck wrote:The buddha is just some guy who has been dead for over 2 thousand years, why the hell should i care what he thinks?

If you don't care what the virtuous think of your behaviour then you lack any good qualities. Shame and fear of wrong-doing are the two guardians of the world, without which all will fall into hell. Then they will know why the hell they should have cared.

The Buddha is the teacher that all should remember and contemplate for the guiding example of perfect behaviour in body, speech, and thought. Reflecting on the Buddha's virtues is like using a mirror to see one's own defects.

The Buddha is not just some guy who died over 2,500 years ago. He was the incomparable teacher of trainable persons.

If the Buddha Did Not Appear

If the sun did not appear in the world the people would be groping in the dark and some would fall into a chasm. If the Buddha did not appear, there would be no knowledge of the Dhamma, and people would fall into the chasm of Hell. It is because the Buddha appeared that wisdom prevails to distinguish Hell from nibbāna, celestial realms and so forth. Otherwise, there would be profound ignorance.
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Re: Very good guideline to awakening

Postby m0rl0ck » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:37 pm

Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:
m0rl0ck wrote:The buddha is just some guy who has been dead for over 2 thousand years, why the hell should i care what he thinks?

If you don't care what the virtuous think of you're behaviour then you lack any good qualities. Shame and fear of wrong-doing are the two guardians of the world, without which all will fall into hell. Then they will know why the hell they should have cared.

The Buddha is the teacher that all should remember and contemplate for the guiding example of perfect behaviour in body, speech, and thought. Reflecting on the Buddha's virtues is like using a mirror to see one's own defects.

The Buddha is not just some guy who died over 2,500 years ago. He was the incomparable teacher of trainable persons.

If the Buddha Did Not Appear

If the sun did not appear in the world the people would be groping in the dark and some would fall into a chasm. If the Buddha did not appear, there would be no knowledge of the Dhamma, and people would fall into the chasm of Hell. It is because the Buddha appeared that wisdom prevails to distinguish Hell from nibbāna, celestial realms and so forth. Otherwise, there would be profound ignorance.


I try to live my life, according to certain principles, in a way that will, from what i have been given to understand and which seems to work in practice, reduce human suffering. I dont care to deify or curry favor with dead men, its a distraction from the path and from practice imo and comes with lots of conceptual dead weight.
Thank you for threatening me with hell, its been a while since anyone did that and i had forgotten how much i enjoyed it :)
"When you meditate, don't send your mind outside. Don't fasten onto any knowledge at all. Whatever knowledge you've gained from books or teachers, don't bring it in to complicate things. Cut away all preoccupations, and then as you meditate let all your knowledge come from what's going on in the mind. When the mind is quiet, you'll know it for yourself. But you have to keep meditating a lot. When the time comes for things to develop, they'll develop on their own. Whatever you know, have it come from your own mind.
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Re: Very good guideline to awakening

Postby JackV » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:56 pm

m0rl0ck wrote:
Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:
m0rl0ck wrote:The buddha is just some guy who has been dead for over 2 thousand years, why the hell should i care what he thinks?

If you don't care what the virtuous think of you're behaviour then you lack any good qualities. Shame and fear of wrong-doing are the two guardians of the world, without which all will fall into hell. Then they will know why the hell they should have cared.

The Buddha is the teacher that all should remember and contemplate for the guiding example of perfect behaviour in body, speech, and thought. Reflecting on the Buddha's virtues is like using a mirror to see one's own defects.

The Buddha is not just some guy who died over 2,500 years ago. He was the incomparable teacher of trainable persons.

If the Buddha Did Not Appear

If the sun did not appear in the world the people would be groping in the dark and some would fall into a chasm. If the Buddha did not appear, there would be no knowledge of the Dhamma, and people would fall into the chasm of Hell. It is because the Buddha appeared that wisdom prevails to distinguish Hell from nibbāna, celestial realms and so forth. Otherwise, there would be profound ignorance.




I try to live my life, according to certain principles, in a way that will, from what i have been given to understand and which seems to work in practice, reduce human suffering. I dont care to deify or curry favor with dead men, its a distraction from the path and from practice imo and comes with lots of conceptual dead weight.
Thank you for threatening me with hell, its been a while since anyone did that and i had forgotten how much i enjoyed it :)


I do not think that the Ven Pesala was "threatening you" in any way. It's a simple statement that the Buddha, the person who taught Dhamma for the benefit of all beings has given us -shown us - the path. Without this path then we wouldn't be able to ever free ourselves from suffering. Without knowing the right way to go many would end up taking the wrong way ending up in a litteral or metaphorical hell.

Also you must see that your initial statement was worded a bit harshly. Whatever your view there is a way of surely saying it that isn't going to be so abrasive. Yikes
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Re: Very good guideline to awakening

Postby xtracorrupt » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:53 pm

m0rl0ck wrote:
Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:
m0rl0ck wrote:The buddha is just some guy who has been dead for over 2 thousand years, why the hell should i care what he thinks?

If you don't care what the virtuous think of you're behaviour then you lack any good qualities. Shame and fear of wrong-doing are the two guardians of the world, without which all will fall into hell. Then they will know why the hell they should have cared.

The Buddha is the teacher that all should remember and contemplate for the guiding example of perfect behaviour in body, speech, and thought. Reflecting on the Buddha's virtues is like using a mirror to see one's own defects.

The Buddha is not just some guy who died over 2,500 years ago. He was the incomparable teacher of trainable persons.

If the Buddha Did Not Appear

If the sun did not appear in the world the people would be groping in the dark and some would fall into a chasm. If the Buddha did not appear, there would be no knowledge of the Dhamma, and people would fall into the chasm of Hell. It is because the Buddha appeared that wisdom prevails to distinguish Hell from nibbāna, celestial realms and so forth. Otherwise, there would be profound ignorance.


I try to live my life, according to certain principles, in a way that will, from what i have been given to understand and which seems to work in practice, reduce human suffering. I dont care to deify or curry favor with dead men, its a distraction from the path and from practice imo and comes with lots of conceptual dead weight.
Thank you for threatening me with hell, its been a while since anyone did that and i had forgotten how much i enjoyed it :)


Try and make sure you have good will(wanting happiness/ no suffering), this will promote understandment in order to prevent suffering/bring happiness
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