Will Nirvana lead to extinction?

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Will Nirvana lead to extinction?

Postby C J » Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:48 am

Dear all,

I just want to learn, I'm a good Buddhist, I started practicing metta meditation recently after reading Velaama Sutta.
I had this weird thought for sometime, I thought about placing it here and getting it cleared out.

I know what I'm asking is something that will not happen & it's not practical. Some of you will think this kind of questions are just wasting time, I know it is. But I just need to clear my mind and seeking your help for that.

What if every human been in this world attain Nirvana? Not at once but through many years. Imagine all humans attain Nirvana.
So it will be the end of human kind. So Buddhism lead to extinction of human kind. In a way it's very good, no more suffering. But in another way it's so sad, what will an alien from another world think about earth when he come to earth at that time. There will be lot of structures, evidence for intelligent life, but they will not find any intelligent beings.

I would like to see Buddhism leading us to a better life, one with less suffering, where people can live life after life and enjoy it. So who ever want to attain Nirvan can do so and who ever want to stay enjoying life also can do so. Is there any chance for that?

Sorry if I disturb you in any way, that was not my intention. Just want to clear my mind.

Thanks,
CJ

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Re: Will Nirvana lead to extinction?

Postby Reductor » Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:15 am

Everyone that enjoys life, and clings to it, will remain. Everyone that doesn't, will not remain. Of course that is fine: that it is how it is now.

Honestly, I think some cataclysm is likely to obliterate human kind long before every being attains nibbana. :tongue:

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Re: Will Nirvana lead to extinction?

Postby LonesomeYogurt » Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:29 am

Gain and loss, status and disgrace,
censure and praise, pleasure and pain:
these conditions among human beings are inconstant,
impermanent, subject to change.

Knowing this, the wise person, mindful,
ponders these changing conditions.
Desirable things don’t charm the mind,
undesirable ones bring no resistance.

His welcoming and rebelling are scattered,
gone to their end,
do not exist.
- Lokavipatti Sutta


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Re: Will Nirvana lead to extinction?

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Re: Will Nirvana lead to extinction?

Postby Mawkish1983 » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:38 am

Tanha drives Samsara, so it is inseparable from Dukkha. The ONLY way to rid ourselves of Dukkha is to abandon Tanha, i.e. attain Nibbana.

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Re: Will Nirvana lead to extinction?

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Re: Will Nirvana lead to extinction?

Postby LonesomeYogurt » Tue Oct 30, 2012 3:49 am

Gain and loss, status and disgrace,
censure and praise, pleasure and pain:
these conditions among human beings are inconstant,
impermanent, subject to change.

Knowing this, the wise person, mindful,
ponders these changing conditions.
Desirable things don’t charm the mind,
undesirable ones bring no resistance.

His welcoming and rebelling are scattered,
gone to their end,
do not exist.
- Lokavipatti Sutta


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Re: Will Nirvana lead to extinction?

Postby whynotme » Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:38 am

Dear CJ,

Glad that you asked your questions, and tried to answer your questions before you asked, it shows that you are serious with your questions.

First of all, IMO, the Buddhist universe has no beginning, with infinite time passed by. There were an infinity of Buddhas in the past, and an infinity of arahants were their disciples, and the world is still there, humankind is still there. Also there is a prediction that the Buddhism will disappear after 5000 years, so even you tried very hard, only a very small number of people will reach nibbana, don't worry. It is like you worry about if people keep drinking water, then the Earth will be dry

Secondly, in Buddhist cosmology, after a very long time, no matter what, the world will be destroyed. When it happens, devas and human will learn jhanas and be reborn as brahmas. Then after a very long time, the world will be formed again, and people after exhausted their kamma in brahma world will be reborn in that world. We were devas and brahmas in the past. The world will be formed, then exists a long time, then be destroyed again and again, it is the circle of life. All of your worry is like put a spoon of salt into to the ocean

Lastly, attain nibbana is not running away from the problem. The Buddha said that he sought every happiness possible in the past, he was the Chakravatin, the king ruled the world and lead people to happiness many times in the past, he lived luxury lives, he lived devas and brahman lives. But all of those things did not satisfy him, because he was not released from age, disease and death. He did not run away in fear, hid from the problem, but he was tired of worldly happiness. Most of people are like a poor men, are hungry and thirsty, and they don't know why a rich man with a comfortable life is bored with luxury food and drink and throw them away like nothing. If you don't understand the need of nibbana, no need to seek it, just seek mundane happiness until you are fed up with it, then you will know what nibbana means.

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Re: Will Nirvana lead to extinction?

Postby beeblebrox » Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:52 am

Nibbana is not an extinction of life. It's an extinction of greed, hatred and delusions (including those of annihilationism, a wrong view)... all of these which cause dukkha or difficulties, either for oneself or especially others.


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