If I have reached first Jhana is that same thing as having.?

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If I have reached first Jhana is that same thing as having.?

Postby villkorkarma » Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:05 pm

If I have reached first Jhana is that same thing as having reached equanimity?
one suffer because one hasnt existed long : )

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James the Giant
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Re: If I have reached first Jhana is that same thing as having.?

Postby James the Giant » Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:11 pm

No. Dude, you gotta do some reading.
Then,
saturated with joy,
you will put an end to suffering and stress.
SN 9.11

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Re: If I have reached first Jhana is that same thing as having.?

Postby Cittasanto » Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:39 pm

villkorkarma wrote:If I have reached first Jhana is that same thing as having reached equanimity?

nope, that would be the fourth!
“Mendicants, these two [types of persons] defame the Tathāgata.
(The mendicants asked) What are the two [types of persons]?
(The Lord Buddha responded) The malicious, or the inwardly angry, and the one with (blind) faith or the one who holds things incorrectly.
Mendicants, these two [types of persons] defame the Tathāgata.”
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Re: If I have reached first Jhana is that same thing as having.?

Postby mikenz66 » Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:43 pm

Hi villkorkarma

These definitions from the Suttas may be helpful:
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/ptf/dham ... jhana.html

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Re: If I have reached first Jhana is that same thing as having.?

Postby Paul Davy » Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:50 pm

Greetings,

villkorkarma wrote:If I have reached first Jhana is that same thing as having reached equanimity?

Well, on one hand, you can have equanimity (upekkha) without any jhana at all.

However in terms of jhana it's typically the third jhana which is associated with equanimity...

With the fading away of rapture, he dwells in equanimity, mindful and discerning; and he experiences in his own person that happiness of which the noble ones say: 'Happily lives he who is equanimous and mindful' — thus he enters and dwells in the third jhana. (M.i,182; Vbh.245)"

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What is the final conviction that comes when radical attention is razor-edge sharp? That the object of the mind is mind-made (manomaya). (Ven. Ñāṇananda)

Having understood name-and-form, which is a product of prolificity,
And which is the root of all malady within and without,
He is released from bondage to the root of all maladies,
That Such-like-one is truly known as 'the one who has understood'.
(Snp 3.6)

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Re: If I have reached first Jhana is that same thing as having.?

Postby James the Giant » Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:49 am

James the Giant wrote:No. Dude, you gotta do some reading.

I apologise for my rudeness... I should have learned by now to keep my mouth shut till after breakfast, when my blood sugar has risen.
Then,
saturated with joy,
you will put an end to suffering and stress.
SN 9.11

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Re: If I have reached first Jhana is that same thing as having.?

Postby villkorkarma » Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:12 pm

is reaching a jhana something one do when one practice mindfullness or just living a alert movement life?
How will I know If one reached the third jhana?
one suffer because one hasnt existed long : )

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Re: If I have reached first Jhana is that same thing as having.?

Postby villkorkarma » Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:17 pm

I have read that if one have reached equanimity the stagnation is destroyed, how to know what that is? :thanks:
one suffer because one hasnt existed long : )


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