Isnt it a Buddhist belief that so called Demons exist?

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Re: Isnt it a Buddhist belief that so called Demons exist?

Postby Mawkish1983 » Sun Nov 04, 2012 12:35 pm

DAWN wrote:Only that i know is that demons are made by fear. Some kind of anti-mater.
Barionic (light) mater is made by gravitation, by unification, by love. Demons are made by fear, by devision, by anti-gravitation.

They are not visibles by eye be cause our eye can see only the light.
They are feed by fear, and hurt by love.

So if you have deal with it, you must to know that its just some beings like you, who knows suffering (much more suffering, they even take delight in it) and want just to be happy, to survive, to exist.
They just want exist, this why they make us fear sometimes, because in this fear they exist, by this fear they feel their existence.
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Re: Isnt it a Buddhist belief that so called Demons exist?

Postby DAWN » Sun Nov 04, 2012 2:37 pm

Mawkish1983 wrote:
DAWN wrote:Only that i know is that demons are made by fear. Some kind of anti-mater.
Barionic (light) mater is made by gravitation, by unification, by love. Demons are made by fear, by devision, by anti-gravitation.

They are not visibles by eye be cause our eye can see only the light.
They are feed by fear, and hurt by love.

So if you have deal with it, you must to know that its just some beings like you, who knows suffering (much more suffering, they even take delight in it) and want just to be happy, to survive, to exist.
They just want exist, this why they make us fear sometimes, because in this fear they exist, by this fear they feel their existence.
Sutta reference?


I dont have sutta; it's an heretic wiev.
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Re: Isnt it a Buddhist belief that so called Demons exist?

Postby Mawkish1983 » Sun Nov 04, 2012 3:17 pm

DAWN wrote:
Mawkish1983 wrote:
DAWN wrote:Only that i know is that demons are made by fear. Some kind of anti-mater.
Barionic (light) mater is made by gravitation, by unification, by love. Demons are made by fear, by devision, by anti-gravitation.

They are not visibles by eye be cause our eye can see only the light.
They are feed by fear, and hurt by love.
Sutta reference?
I dont have sutta; it's an heretic wiev.
I see. So you just made it all up? Could be worth making it clearer in future when sharing adhammic conjecture. Just a suggestion.
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Re: Isnt it a Buddhist belief that so called Demons exist?

Postby DAWN » Sun Nov 04, 2012 5:27 pm

Mawkish1983 wrote:I see. So you just made it all up? Could be worth making it clearer in future when sharing adhammic conjecture. Just a suggestion.


It's an intelectual, logical conclusion. This conclusion is that demons are made by fear, by anti-gravitation, anti-mater, so cant be visible by us, and can be destroyed by love, by gravitation, by mater.

If there is 0, there is also +1 and -1. Day and night, love and fear, etc.
Just some dualistic, logical conclusion.

I have never deal with it, but i know that when i feel fear i have just to feel some love or compssion to the cause of my fear, and this feeling disapears. Love destoy fear, and fear destroy love. When i say love i mean unification, when i say fear i mean division.
Also, it will be more strange if there is no such kind of leaving being, than if there is.

Sabbe dhamma anatta.
So i dont know if fear have some kind of conditioned self to call it leaving beings or just fenomena, but i know that fear is netralised by love. The rest information about this fenomena is not necessarily important to cope with it.

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Re: Isnt it a Buddhist belief that so called Demons exist?

Postby Mawkish1983 » Sun Nov 04, 2012 5:38 pm

DAWN wrote:It's an intelectual, logical conclusion. This conclusion is that demons are made by fear, by anti-gravitation, anti-mater, so cant be visible by us, and can be destroyed by love, by gravitation, by mater.
Ah, I get it, this is a joke. Okay. Often, sarcasm is wasted on me.
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Re: Isnt it a Buddhist belief that so called Demons exist?

Postby DAWN » Sun Nov 04, 2012 5:44 pm

Mawkish1983 wrote:
DAWN wrote:It's an intelectual, logical conclusion. This conclusion is that demons are made by fear, by anti-gravitation, anti-mater, so cant be visible by us, and can be destroyed by love, by gravitation, by mater.
Ah, I get it, this is a joke. Okay. Often, sarcasm is wasted on me.


All fenomena is some kind of joke :spy:
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Re: Isnt it a Buddhist belief that so called Demons exist?

Postby dude » Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:14 am

Ervin wrote:How does karma work in relation to so called Demons, Are they subject to it? And what does Buddhism say on how do Demons operate?

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Of course. All living beings are subject to karma.
Demons are living beings who have a lot of anger karma and are born as angry spirits. They mostly run around clobbering other angry spirits but sometimes they interact with other kinds of living beings. Some of them showed up to hear the Buddha's teachings and conceived the desire to attain enlightenment.
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Re: Isnt it a Buddhist belief that so called Demons exist?

Postby whynotme » Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:15 am

LonesomeYogurt wrote:
Alex123 wrote:And how do you explain Buddha talking and resisting Mara's temptations?

Did Buddha still have negative conscious or subconscious thought processes?

It's very possible that all exchanges between the Buddha and Mara are poetic devices meant to expound doctrine. I doubt that the Buddha, who was almost always alone when Mara came upon him, ran back to the monks afterwards and told them what happened. It makes more sense to believe that the stories are allegorical and exist to represent the unshakable enlightenment of the Buddha.

No, they really exist.

I know people and videos can see them and talk to them. And as I see, it is the world of perception like a dream, everything can happens. I don't know, it is like consciousness can exist without body, and if someone dies, they appear in that world. And they can see vast distance immediately in that world. That is from real life experience and I think many things in suttas were said according to this world.

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Re: Isnt it a Buddhist belief that so called Demons exist?

Postby Sambojjhanga » Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:48 pm

There's a funny little saying that I like which I think sums up my own personal feelings on this matter:

Just because you don't believe in demons doesn't mean that they don't believe in you.

Food for thought...

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Re: Isnt it a Buddhist belief that so called Demons exist?

Postby Yana » Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:41 pm

Ervin wrote:How does karma work in relation to so called Demons, Are they subject to it? And what does Buddhism say on how do Demons operate?

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Hi Ervin,

A trait naturally associated with a Demon is anger. Demons are subject to kamma.All beings except an Enlightened Being is subject to kamma.

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