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The erosion of America's freedoms - its all our fault!

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The erosion of America's freedoms - its all our fault!

Postby Ben » Sun Nov 04, 2012 9:45 pm

If you don't have time to watch all of this - which makes for salutory viewing - skip to 7.23.

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

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Postby daverupa » Sun Nov 04, 2012 9:55 pm

And then... fireworks!

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It's such a stunning phenomenon, this, what... third of the population?

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Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Sun Nov 04, 2012 9:59 pm

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. (Sir Winston Churchill).

The erosion of defilements is the best way to find freedom.
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Postby Ben » Sun Nov 04, 2012 10:46 pm

Yeah,I also thought that it was interesting when the voters were asked about Romney's plan - no one had a clue. Still, that could have been edited that way.
From an outsider's perspective - I reckon O'Bama has been an excellent president - despite the mess he inherited.
Interesting days ahead, no doubt.
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
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Postby Mr Man » Sun Nov 04, 2012 10:49 pm

Comedians everywhere must be hoping for a Romney victory.

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Postby BubbaBuddhist » Sun Nov 04, 2012 10:52 pm

Well, America is the country which is giving the world (an on the behalf of my country let me offer my most sincere apologies) the adventures of Honey Boo-Boo. If you don't know what the heck a "Honey Boo-Boo" is, until yesterday neither did I. H.P. Lovecraft wrote that there are some things in the universe the knowledge of which would shatter the mind. Consumed by insatiable curiosity, I fell prey to demented madness and had to find out what all the talk of this "Honey Boo-Boo" was about. After a little research, and much verification to assure that it wasn't some kind of hoax, I now know what Lovecraft meant. My next move is finding a neurosurgeon to excise the portion of my brain containing the knowledge of this unspeakable horror. If I lose the use of the entire left side of my body, it's a small price. I suspect the people in that posted video would find Honey BB (no relation) unbearably CUTE.

History will no longer remember America as the land of the free and the home of the the brave, but the land of the chubby and the home of the southern deep-fried. Write the station, petition Congress, stage protests, boycott sponsors--whatever it takes--but bury this abomination for God's sake.

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Postby Ben » Sun Nov 04, 2012 10:58 pm

Hey Jon,
I'm too afraid to look. I haven't been the same since your good nation unleashed on us all the "car bra".

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-gqbx6g8JFrY/T ... /braGP.jpg
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
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- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Postby Modus.Ponens » Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:09 pm

:rofl:

The whole video is full of gems, and the buddhist one is one of the best ones.
He turns his mind away from those phenomena, and having done so, inclines his mind to the property of deathlessness: 'This is peace, this is exquisite — the resolution of all fabrications; the relinquishment of all acquisitions; the ending of craving; dispassion; cessation; Unbinding.'
(Jhana Sutta - Thanissaro Bhikkhu translation)

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Postby Cittasanto » Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:25 pm

Less respected around the world?
at 5:05 is laughable, if anything USA is more respected now than the hatred felt towards them under Bush.
Romney managed to "piss off" both the Conservative (middle right) Prime Minister of the UK and Mayor of London who should be ideologically closer than Obama. or how about his other insults to other countries.

But a serious question. Is the USA the only country that think free nationalised health care is communist?


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He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Postby Modus.Ponens » Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:28 pm

Well, I guess I'll take the risk and find out what a Honey Boo Boo is. My curiosity is too big.
He turns his mind away from those phenomena, and having done so, inclines his mind to the property of deathlessness: 'This is peace, this is exquisite — the resolution of all fabrications; the relinquishment of all acquisitions; the ending of craving; dispassion; cessation; Unbinding.'
(Jhana Sutta - Thanissaro Bhikkhu translation)

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Postby polarbear101 » Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:38 pm

"I don't envision a single thing that, when developed & cultivated, leads to such great benefit as the mind. The mind, when developed & cultivated, leads to great benefit."

"I don't envision a single thing that, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about such suffering & stress as the mind. The mind, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about suffering & stress."

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Postby Modus.Ponens » Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:14 am

Fortunately I didn't do extensive research on the honey boo boo. One episode is more than enough time thrown away.

And yes, the honey boo boo show seems to symbolise one third of USA.
He turns his mind away from those phenomena, and having done so, inclines his mind to the property of deathlessness: 'This is peace, this is exquisite — the resolution of all fabrications; the relinquishment of all acquisitions; the ending of craving; dispassion; cessation; Unbinding.'
(Jhana Sutta - Thanissaro Bhikkhu translation)

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Postby Ben » Mon Nov 05, 2012 7:29 am

Hi Sam,

I used to do the same thing with Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons when they came to the door. One time I actually invited a young Mormon couple into the house and gave them bancha tea and talked to them about the Dhamma - they never came back.
These days I just politely say "thank you, but no thanks".
kind regards,

Ben
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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