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SamKR wrote:Why is everyone happy that Obama won? :thinking:
Who did you want? Did you want Romney? Really?
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Awww, shucks! Everyone can like who they want.

Since I'm Canadian, I lean left (it gives me an uneven gait, but I live with it). As such, I have a deep distrust for the righters in the US. Even Obama has given us some scares up here in the North-Country.
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David N. Snyder wrote:
SamKR wrote:Why is everyone happy that Obama won? :thinking:
Who did you want? Did you want Romney? Really?
Not sure, but is Obama so significantly different from Romney? I am surprised to see the wave of applause from the people (my relatives, friends here and in Asia) who don't even know much about what good thing Obama did, or what wrong would Romney do. Their support seems to be based on personality rather than policy. Just my opinion.
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I agree there is definitely too much made and too much voter decision based on personality rather than issues.

For me, one of the key factors was which one is less likely to go to another war, which one is less likely to engage in nation building. You would think we would learn from history, but apparently not. Other than that, I agree with you mostly that there is not much difference between the two. Not much gets done either way as they don't have as much power as they would like. They do seem to have plenty of power for using military force unnecessarily, for some reason, though.
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David N. Snyder wrote:
For me, one of the key factors was which one is less likely to go to another war, which one is less likely to engage in nation building.
Ok, that's right. If Obama is less likely to go to another war (and so less suffering in the world) that would be really good. :)
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David N. Snyder wrote: Other than that, I agree with you mostly that there is not much difference between the two.
Balderdash.That is the same sort of thing that the spoiler Ralph Nader said about Gore and Bush, and do
I need to elaborate?
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SamKR wrote:I am surprised to see the wave of applause from the people (my relatives, friends here and in Asia) who don't even know much about what good thing Obama did, or what wrong would Romney do. Their support seems to be based on personality rather than policy. Just my opinion.
Its not just personality, Sam. It might be hard for many Americans to fathom that the outcome of the US presidential election has profound impacts around the world. I'm sure its why many people around the world are keenly interested in - not just the US presidential election, but US federal politics generally.
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tiltbillings wrote:do
I need to elaborate?
No, but that's not the point.
We know you want to.
So, go on, Tilt - elaborate!
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Ben wrote:
tiltbillings wrote:do
I need to elaborate?
No, but that's not the point.
We know you want to.
So, go on, Tilt - elaborate!
Well, if you are going to be that way, no. I'll just mind my own business and not say a thing about Iraq, the Supreme Court, taxe breaks for the rich, trying privatize Social Security, Katrina, etc. Not a word.
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Michael Moore keeps the faith. :group:



"Congratulations everyone!! This country has truly changed, and I believe there will be no going back. Hate lost today. That is amazing in and of itself. And all the women who were elected tonight! A total rebuke of neanderthal attitudes.

Now the real work begins. Millions of us must come together to insist that President Obama and the Democrats stand up and fight and, if the House doesn't want to play ball, do a massive end run around them. Likewise, we have to have Obama's back. As he is blocked and attacked by the Right, we need to be there with him. We are the majority. Let's act like it.

And please Mr. President, make the banks and Wall Street pay. You're the boss, not them. Lead the fight to get money out of politics - the spending on this election is shameful and dangerous. Don't wait til 2014 to bring the troops home - bring 'em home now. Stop the drone strikes on civilians. End the senseless war on drugs. Act like a mother***** when
it comes to climate change - ignore the nuts and fix this now. Take the profit motive out of things that any civilized country would say, "this is for the common good." Make higher educational affordable for everyone and don't send 22-year olds out into the world already in debt. Order a moratorium on home foreclosures and evictions. There are ways to create good-paying jobs - I have some ideas, if you've got a minute. Make your second term historical!

Finally thanks to the Occupy movement who, a year ago, set the tone of this election heart with "the 1% vs. everybody else" - and inspired Obama and his campaign to realize that there was huge popular sentiment against what the wealthy have done. And that led to Romney's "47%" remarks which was the beginning of the end of his campaign. Thank you Mother Jones for releasing that secret tape and thank you to the minimum wage worker who did the secret taping. Thank you Sandra Fluke for enduing the insults hurled at you and becoming an important grass-roots leader. Thank you Todd Aikin for... well, for just being you. Thank you CEOs of Chrysler and GM for coming out forcefully against a Republican candidate, saying he lived in "an alternate universe" when he lied about Jeep. Thank you for Governor Cristie for being the final nail in the coffin.

And thank you Mother Nature, in all your horrific damage you caused last week, you became, ironically, the undoing of a Party that didn't believe in you or your climate changing powers.

Perhaps they'll believe now".

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tiltbillings wrote:
Ben wrote:
tiltbillings wrote:do
I need to elaborate?
No, but that's not the point.
We know you want to.
So, go on, Tilt - elaborate!
Well, if you are going to be that way, no...
... Not a word.
Damn. Now I'll never know.
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- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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tiltbillings wrote:
Ben wrote:
tiltbillings wrote:do
I need to elaborate?
No, but that's not the point.
We know you want to.
So, go on, Tilt - elaborate!
Well, if you are going to be that way, no. I'll just mind my own business and not say a thing about Iraq, the Supreme Court, taxe breaks for the rich, trying privatize Social Security, Katrina, etc. Not a word.
Tilt for the love of (Romneys) God tell us!
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but the Wisconsin Democratic Rep. Tammy Baldwin became the first openly gay U.S. senator too.
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Me and my husband were holding our breath all day.. :tongue: Obama won! :clap:
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