Anomalous Phenomena/"The Broken Buddha" by Ven. S. Dhammika

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Anomalous Phenomena/"The Broken Buddha" by Ven. S. Dhammika

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Re: "The Broken Buddha" by Ven. S. Dhammika

Postby Alex123 » Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:41 pm

"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Re: "The Broken Buddha" by Ven. S. Dhammika

Postby Cittasanto » Thu Nov 08, 2012 12:10 am



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: "The Broken Buddha" by Ven. S. Dhammika

Postby alan » Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:17 am

S. Dhammika's essay is perfectly rational, and admirably honest. I applaud him for speaking the truth.

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Re: "The Broken Buddha" by Ven. S. Dhammika

Postby Yana » Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:10 am

Life is preparing for Death

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Re: "The Broken Buddha" by Ven. S. Dhammika

Postby alan » Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:25 am

That was a whole bunch of words put together in a long post. But I don't know what it means.
What was your point?

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Re: "The Broken Buddha" by Ven. S. Dhammika

Postby Yana » Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:46 am

well..i typed it in plain English so..maybe read the context or use a dictionary..it helps.
Life is preparing for Death

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Re: "The Broken Buddha" by Ven. S. Dhammika

Postby LonesomeYogurt » Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:17 am

Gain and loss, status and disgrace,
censure and praise, pleasure and pain:
these conditions among human beings are inconstant,
impermanent, subject to change.

Knowing this, the wise person, mindful,
ponders these changing conditions.
Desirable things don’t charm the mind,
undesirable ones bring no resistance.

His welcoming and rebelling are scattered,
gone to their end,
do not exist.
- Lokavipatti Sutta


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Re: "The Broken Buddha" by Ven. S. Dhammika

Postby Yana » Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:28 am

Hi Alan,

Lonesome yoghurts right in expressing my point.I'm sorry but after typing that much and in plain English i just didn't feel like elaborating it even more especially if i know your not interested and it does show..If you want a shorter version to know what the whole point is just read Lonesome yoghurts explanation.. :anjali: i'm also sorry if i was on the defensive. Please accept my apology :anjali:
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Re: "The Broken Buddha" by Ven. S. Dhammika

Postby Alex123 » Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:50 pm

"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Re: "The Broken Buddha" by Ven. S. Dhammika

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Sabbe dhamma anatta
We are not concurents...

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Postby Cittasanto » Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:51 pm



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: "The Broken Buddha" by Ven. S. Dhammika

Postby Alex123 » Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:10 pm

"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Re: "The Broken Buddha" by Ven. S. Dhammika

Postby DAWN » Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:04 pm

Sabbe dhamma anatta
We are not concurents...

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Re: "The Broken Buddha" by Ven. S. Dhammika

Postby Cittasanto » Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:16 pm

hi Alex, dawn.
if someone gives any excuse for why they wouldn't demonstrate such abilities they claim to have I would say because they can not! they are quite literally speaking out of the wrong orifice.

Quantum physics does not deal with the mind or have a philosophy of mind to my knowledge and if I remember correctly there are some scientists about who are far better acquainted with the actual subject who can correct any misunderstanding being thrown about.

If there was enough evidence for something being true there may be doubters (such as young earth or flat earth believers) but the evidence would speak for itself. what people want to believe is not the point of actual evidence, the point of evidence if proof, to show something is. there are those who hate evolution and try to show it didn't happen through pseudo-science doesn't make it any less true!


He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: "The Broken Buddha" by Ven. S. Dhammika

Postby DAWN » Fri Nov 09, 2012 8:59 am

Sabbe dhamma anatta
We are not concurents...

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Re: "The Broken Buddha" by Ven. S. Dhammika

Postby James the Giant » Fri Nov 09, 2012 9:22 am

Sweet. Now, predict my lotto numbers, or alter a finely balanced scale in a sealed box, or change the rate of particle decay in a radioactive sample... and I'll even believe you.
Then,
saturated with joy,
you will put an end to suffering and stress.

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Re: "The Broken Buddha" by Ven. S. Dhammika

Postby Cittasanto » Fri Nov 09, 2012 10:04 am



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.


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