Why is Satipatthana emphasized over Anapanasati?

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Re: Why is Satipatthana emphasized over Anapanasati?

Postby LonesomeYogurt » Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:16 am

Gain and loss, status and disgrace,
censure and praise, pleasure and pain:
these conditions among human beings are inconstant,
impermanent, subject to change.

Knowing this, the wise person, mindful,
ponders these changing conditions.
Desirable things don’t charm the mind,
undesirable ones bring no resistance.

His welcoming and rebelling are scattered,
gone to their end,
do not exist.
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Re: Why is Satipatthana emphasized over Anapanasati?

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Re: Why is Satipatthana emphasized over Anapanasati?

Postby LonesomeYogurt » Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:47 am

Gain and loss, status and disgrace,
censure and praise, pleasure and pain:
these conditions among human beings are inconstant,
impermanent, subject to change.

Knowing this, the wise person, mindful,
ponders these changing conditions.
Desirable things don’t charm the mind,
undesirable ones bring no resistance.

His welcoming and rebelling are scattered,
gone to their end,
do not exist.
- Lokavipatti Sutta


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Re: Why is Satipatthana emphasized over Anapanasati?

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Re: Why is Satipatthana emphasized over Anapanasati?

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Re: Why is Satipatthana emphasized over Anapanasati?

Postby SarathW » Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:30 pm

Buddha meditated and discovered the four noble truths. So I do not have to meditate again six years to re discover it. Scientist such as Humphrey Davy and Thomas Edison discovered the electricity and the light globe. If I need electricity simply I need to do is to on the switch. The same way I do not believe that we have to meditate to attain Nirvana. What we need is just to understand the Four Noble Truths. Having said that I do Samatha and Vipassana meditation. It is not easy for a person like me to understand Four Noble Truths by just reading a book.
Thanks every one and specially Santa and LY. I found some thing which I was looking for some time. I knew this but I need that to be supported by the teaching

Venerable Ananda: The Blessed One, brahmin, did not praise every type of meditation, nor did he condemn every type of meditation. What kind of meditation did the Blessed One not praise? Here, brahmin, someone abides with his mind obsessed by sensual lust, a prey to sensual lust, and he does not understand as it actually is the escape from arisen sensual lust. While he harbors sensual lust within, he meditates, premeditates, out-meditates, and mismeditates. He abides with his mind obsessed by ill will, a prey to ill will...with his mind obsessed by sloth and torpor, a prey to sloth and torpor...with his mind obsessed by restlessness and remorse, a prey to restlessness and remorse...with his mind obsessed by doubt, a prey to doubt, and he does not understand as it actually is the escape from arisen doubt. While he harbors doubt within, he meditates, premeditates, out-meditates, and mismeditates. The Blessed One did not praise that kind of meditation.

27. “And what kind of meditation did the Blessed One praise? Here, brahmin, quite secluded from sensual pleasures, secluded from unwholesome states, a bhikkhu enters upon and abides in the first jhāna...With the stilling of applied and sustained thought, he enters upon and abides in the second jhāna...With the fading away as well of rapture...he enters upon and abides in the third jhāna...With the abandoning of pleasure and pain...he enters upon and abides in the fourth jhāna...The Blessed One praised that kind of meditation.”

My queston to you all :Is this the difference between Samma Samadi and Mitya Samadi ?
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Re: Why is Satipatthana emphasized over Anapanasati?

Postby Sekha » Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:04 am

well this has probably been said earlier, but just in case:

anapanassati is included in the satipatthanas

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