No.petergriffin608 wrote:
I am asking a very "practical" question. i.e. Can a Buddhist monk kill in self-defense??
Precept No#1 No Harming Living Beings.
No.petergriffin608 wrote:
I am asking a very "practical" question. i.e. Can a Buddhist monk kill in self-defense??
That is not the first precept, Yana.Yana wrote:No.petergriffin608 wrote:
I am asking a very "practical" question. i.e. Can a Buddhist monk kill in self-defense??
Precept No#1 No Harming Living Beings.
Hi Ben,Ben wrote:That is not the first precept, Yana.Yana wrote:No.petergriffin608 wrote:
I am asking a very "practical" question. i.e. Can a Buddhist monk kill in self-defense??
Precept No#1 No Harming Living Beings.
Be careful you don't make the mistake of confusing Buddhadhamma with the dhamma of the Niganthas (Jains).
kind regards,
Ben
Ben wrote:That is not the first precept, Yana.
Be careful you don't make the mistake of confusing Buddhadhamma with the dhamma of the Niganthas (Jains).
I think anyone can understand what Yana is talking about. The first precept is about not killing. Maybe the "not harming" version is from the Jains? Or what has been confused here? I think you are confusing people by talking about confusion that you conceive of without clearing it up properly.Cittasanto wrote:Hi Yana
be careful not to mix precepts up. You were only referring to...
There are aspects which are comparable, so yes, but the first precept is vague and encompass another rule about animals also which is slightly different (not only in where it is within the rules).daverupa wrote:I think §1337.666 is actually about Mara's powers...
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As an aside, is it the case that one who upholds the first precept is also to that extent restrained with respect to the third parajika? Or does the monastic ruling cover more here? It does say "incite" in various ways; I suppose the first precept doesn't cover speaking in praise of death? Perhaps this is covered by the fourth precept...
Should any bhikkhu intentionally deprive a human being of life, or search for an assassin for him, or praise the advantages of death, or incite him to die (saying,): "My good man, what use is this evil, miserable life to you? Death would be better for you than life," or with such an idea in mind, such a purpose in mind, should in various ways praise the advantages of death or incite him to die, he also is defeated and no longer in affiliation.
Thank you. This was helpful!!!Dhammanando wrote:If a bhikkhu is cornered by an attacker, it is not a Vinaya offence if he gives the attacker a blow, provided that it's only with the aim of escaping from him. If the bhikkhu attempts to kill the attacker and succeeds, then he is defeated (as other posters have mentioned). If he inadvertently kills the attacker while giving him a blow with the aim of escaping, then that too would be no offence, for only intentional killing of a human is a defeating offence.petergriffin608 wrote:Hi, I am new to Buddhism and doing research on this.
Can anyone please tell whether Buddhist monks (Theravada school) are allowed to kill somebody who is trying to kill them. i.e. Can the monks kill in self defense. Which sutta has this please???
The source is the Vinaya Pitaka's account of the 4th pacittiya rule in the Patimokkha's Sahadhammikavagga. For a modern exposition of this, click here and scroll down to 74:
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