Question regarding "jathaka katha"

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Question regarding "jathaka katha"

Postby danesh » Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:42 am

Hi All,
I am Buddhist from Sri Lanka and having question regarding of "Jathaka katha". I assume "Jathaka katha" were not included anywhere in "Thripitaka" (Vinaya, Abhidamma and Sutra). I hope If there anyone in this forum who have already fully read all "Thripitaka" may able to answer my question. Thanks in advance.

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Re: Question regarding "jathaka katha"

Postby LonesomeYogurt » Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:06 am

Bhikkhu Pesala knows quite a bit about the Jataka tales, you might try PMing him?
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Re: Question regarding "jathaka katha"

Postby mikenz66 » Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:09 am

Here's some info that Bhikkhu Pesala compiled on his website:
http://www.aimwell.org/DPPN/jaataka.htm

The tenth book of Khuddaka Nikāya of the Sutta Piṭaka containing tales of the former births of the Buddha. The Jātaka also forms one of the nine divisions (aṅga) of the Buddha’s teachings, grouped according to subject matter (DA.i.15, 24).

The canonical book of the Jātakas (so far unpublished) contains only the verses, but it is almost certain that from the first there must have been handed down an oral commentary giving the stories in prose. This commentary later developed into the Jātaka Aṭṭhakathā.


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Re: Question regarding "jathaka katha"

Postby cooran » Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:11 am

Hello danesh,

My understanding is that the Jataka Stories are not Buddhavacana (Word of the Buddha), but that the Jataka Verses in the stories are Buddhavacana (Word of the Buddha).

I agree with Lonesome Yogurt about asking Bhikkhu Pesala about this.

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Re: Question regarding "jathaka katha"

Postby fig tree » Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:30 am

The info cooran posted in a previous thread seemed good:

http://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=1202

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Re: Question regarding "jathaka katha"

Postby Dhammanando » Sun Nov 11, 2012 7:34 am

danesh wrote:Hi All,
I am Buddhist from Sri Lanka and having question regarding of "Jathaka katha".


The Jataka Katha (or Nidanakatha or Jataka Nidana) is not in the Tipitaka but is the opening section of Buddhaghosa’s commentary (atthakatha) to the Jataka verses, which are in the Tipitaka. It’s one of the earliest attempts to present the Buddha’s life in the form of a connected biography: in effect a Theravadin version of works like the Buddhacarita, Divyavadana, Lalitavistara, etc. Some of its contents are present in the Sutta Pitaka, some are not.
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Re: Question regarding "jathaka katha"

Postby cooran » Sun Nov 11, 2012 7:40 am

Thanks Bhante! Glad of your learning and knowledge!

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Re: Question regarding "jathaka katha"

Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:11 am

LonesomeYogurt wrote:Bhikkhu Pesala knows quite a bit about the Jataka tales, you might try PMing him?

Please don't encourage anyone to send Private Messages just to ask questions that can be asked on the forums. If I see a question that I can answer, then I usually do.

It takes longer to answer a PM than it does to answer a question on the forum, and there's always the feeling that one is being rude if one decides not to reply, whereas on the forum anyone can reply to any question, so if I see its already been answered well by someone else, then I don't need to.
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